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Daniel,

All I do is turn it, lift it, and whip it.:pumpkin:

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Originally Posted by daniell

Hi guys,

I have been trying to learn TT's swing, apparently I come to the conclusion that there are three components in the downswing,

(a) a 'pulling the arrow from the quiver' move with the right hand - connects the right elbow to the hip and ensure the right shoulder moves downplane. Obviously, it also reverses the direction of the clubhead;

(b) a karate chop action - as shown in the video series;

(c) a swivel and hit action through the ball - controversial move but I think it helps ensures squaring the clubface.

In TT's Chapter on Power, he showed a move by swinging a stick with his right hand, I dunno if this is right arm swing or not. But what I seem to feel is that if (a) is missing, the power is all gone. So although TT describes the first downswing move as merely connecting the elbow to the hip (move 4 to 5 , I think), it is actually a pulling action with the right hand, move (a). If this first pulling action is gone, so does the power of the right hand swinging action as demostrated by TT.

Am I on the right track? Really appreciate any help to understand TT's methods.

cheers,

daniel

As Tomasello said in my three day school the pivot "shuts the door" or what squares the clubface...no controversial move in the swing.

Right forearm/elbow "Whips It" and the hips or specifically the left hip "Zips It". Whip it and Zip it...Left Hip is responding to the action of the right forearm or the Magic of the Right Forearm...Hit some really awesome drives with this swing yesterday...long and straight as Tommy said....yeeee hawwwww.

A excellent drill for getting the feel of the downswing is the extensor drill that Tomasello uses in the Australia video. It's the one where he doesn't use a club....Tommy puts his right hand on his left wrist...do that drill and I guarantee you get the proper feel of the downswing using the right forearm to start the downswing....you will discover the first move is down. Try to go out with the right forearm with this drill and you will instantly feel how you go off plane. This drill is so simplistic yet incredibly valueable.

Do two sets of this drill....the extensor action drill without a club five times and then put a club in your hands and do the drill five times. Do it daily.

DG

Hi ChangeMySwing and DG,

Thanks. Think I am getting the hang of it. So it's "Turn it, Lift it, Whip it and Zip it".. ;-)

If I do this pulling action with the right hand, my middle section of the forth right hand finger is a bit sore. I always wonder why Tiger got a bandage on his middle section of his middle right hand finger. Perhaps also due to this pulling action.

I think to complete my swing, i need a good takeaway. It just feels very unnatural at the moment.

Thanks for the replies and drills.

cheers,

daniel

Thanks for posting the sequence of TT's swing, HG. I come to this site every day, but some how never viewed it.

Delaware Golf,

Does the right forearm/ hand chop that TT mentions in the video letter series mesh with the stroke pattern that is demonstrated in the Australian videos? I think that the difference between the two videos/strokes is how TT is using his magical right forearm. Could the reason for the difference be his age and physical condition. I see the stroke in the video letters as being an efficient compromise, but still a compromise because it is less athletic than the stroke that he demonstrates in the Australian videos.

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Originally Posted by ChangeMySwing

No difference....same swing. Have Tommy on video a year before the Australia video using the same uncocking motion as the letter series video. Has nothing to do with his age. :naughty: Watch chapter nine of the chapter series...and listen for the comment, ONE SMOOTH MOTION.

DG

Hi DG/ChangeMySwing,

I have been watching the TT's Australian series and video letters many times, I did not realise it until yesterday. The swing sequense (2) to (3), is just a lifting of the right forearm with very little fanning action. Looks like a purely bicep action. Just lift it.

Of course the reverse action is also true, just karate chop down. Both series and video are the same if we look carefully.

Is it correct?

cheers,

daniel

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Originally Posted by daniell

Remember the 10 sequence drill is just a drill. After you complete the 1 to 2 step in the sequence...study what happens to the right forearm as you cock the right elbow???

DG,

Three things happens when I cock the right elbow:

(1) Right forearm rotates anti-clockwise automatically;
(2) The left shoulder moves forward;
(3) the left knee moves forward and right hip moves back;

They occur almost automatically.

Am I on the right track?

thanks,

daniel