Good stuff..........stance line just does not mean anything to me anymore as far as ball flight. Plane line is the key, where a player as the plane line directed is where its at in terms of importance. Stance line just promotes other biomechancial movements IMO.

Stance line closed makes tracing a plane line left easier. Ball should be played at low point as well because as the plane moves left the ball moves further back.

I am not sure what procedure I use, it cant be cross line because my aiming point is low and left, but its certainly not an arc either.

These drawings are really great. Are you drawing set up or impact. I really am inquiring about the location of the hands. If they are set up the hands are not mid body but close to fix. They are closer to fix therefore impact location. Sorry I might have had a few two many libations as we are snowed in here in south carolina. Very unusual for us. Hard to be stuck inside and reading about golf. I will review all of this in AM with COFFEE and perhaps my old brain will get it. At any rate I am saving it all to my file "Best of Lynn Blake". Looking foward to putting it all on the new Ipad I will get with the gift cards my kids gave me for Christmas. Then I can take it to the range and go over to the shade and look at it. You see for an old guy it is hard to remember to stuff between the house and the range !!

Yoda Phone Home
 

Daryl,

These are important drawings.

But some work remains.

Thank you for all you do.

Magnificent.

I'll call tomorrow.

:salut:

Just noticed how the third and the fourth diagrams have an Impact Plane Line and a Low Point Plane line.........thats one heck of a great addition D.

The further back the ball goes the wider the gap between the two plane lines gets, the more Divergence, the more tilted backspin and the more curvature. Or something like that anyways.

Couples and VJ Sing looks to be very close. Particularly Couples. He just seems to aim his gyro and crank it.

And who knows back in the hickory age. I guess those shafts didn't respond very well to brute force drive loading.

This discussion touches upon a very fascinating topic: What you need to do to work the ball as a hitter is in many ways the opposite of what a swinger need to do. And if yo drag & drive you better know what you're asking for. Cause you will get it :laughing9


I just read this part four times and I don't get it. Why does Homer say that the steeper the Angle of Attack, the higher the trajectory (in this context)? With angled hinging I would assume a "lay forward" (deloft) impact. And with dual horizontal? I dunno. Are we talking about a glancing blow here?

K agreed but if my current thinking is correct about true Swinging meaning no Grip Rotation ....... Then it gets to be a pretty small group and not somehing you can just observe by looking at a super fluid motion like Jones or Couples or.... You'd have to see what they did with the face at fix, if they did fix.

But I could be wrong about Grip Rotation too.

I hate to say this but yes. Moving the Ball back introduces Glancing Blow, roll up the face, higher trajectory.

BerntR you say "Swinger" but you're really referring to the True Swinger I think.

You're garden variety Swinger, the so called Manipulated Hands Swinger, Rotates the Grip and employs a Hinge Action (another form of manipulation) leaving him or her with the same set of geometry as the Hitter.

The True Swinger is a rare bird and leaves everything to CF, no manipulation of any kind , no grip rotation no manipulation of a Hinge Action , Auto Release I think too. Just CF producing its natural Horizontal Hinging ...... passive hands in other words. CF alone squares the clubface.

But I could be wrong, waiting for Yoda to weigh in here about grip rotation......