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Don't overthink this, this is very basic. Don't get confused by the words rotated or swinging or hitting, the question was regarding the pressure points location not it's action. For most a strong single action grip is by far the best choice and is mandatory in homers basic motion acquired motion and total motion curriculums. If you go to any tour event one thing that will stand out with nearly all their swings is their trigger finger grip with the first fleshy pad of the right index finger (pressure sensing pad) on the back of the shaft.

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Originally Posted by whip (Post 90723)

You should see the bronze casts done of the grips of memorable winners of the Open that are displayed at the R&A museum in St Andrews. Trigger fingers all.

The pressure point does Rotate though for the Drag Loader . He or she does load the knuckle at the base of the index finger during Drag Loading, Startdown, Longitudinal Acceleration ...assuming thats what attaches to the top of the handle. Then it Rotates to the first joint or pad (if that whats attached to the aft) during Radial Acceleration.

The Drive Loader just employs the first joint or the pad if you want . Ted hits but drag loads instead of drive loads most often so he's loading the knuckle in STartdown then Drives hard with a Right Arm Throw during Radial Acceleration.

Where in the world is #3PP?

Just my thoughts.

The location and/or movement "feel" of #3, is related to hinge type. Because the #3 "senses" the shaft on the angled plane but the back of the left hand (and therefore the grip unless you asjust your grip during the swing) maintains its relationship to the associated hinge. Therefore, only with angled hinging will #3 remain in one "feel" location, behind the shaft, because the clubface retains its relationship to the angled plane.
Which leads to why angled hinging is "best" for hitting and Horizontal hinging is best for swinging, but thats another story.

HB "thinking" again

At address the location of the #3 pp for hitting or swinging using a strong single action grip is the same, on the back of the shaft, perpendicular to the line of the wrist cock this doesn't mean it's going to be exactly at any angle it depends on your left hand impact location. The action of the #3 pp differs from swinger to hitter but both are in the same location at address. the violinist also uses the number three pressure point as he senses the strings angle and pressures.

It'll be located at the lowest point of contact between hands and club , aft of the direction in which the club is travelling. It senses inertia. And is located at the top of the LCOG, the Sweetspot Plane in other words . If you gripped the club cross handed, during Radial Acceleration it'd be located somewhere on inside of the tip of the left index finger.

During a Lagging Takeaway you sense the Lag at the lowest point of contact between the inside of the right hands index finger or thumb and the fore (as opposed to aft) of the handle.... a reverse #3 is you will. The fore of the handle is now aft of the direction in which the handle is moving in Startup... If you know what I mean. Dang .

Pressure Point Video Coming From Ocean Reef

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Originally Posted by bantamben1 (Post 65301)

Question for lynn the inside aft quadrant in tgm refers to the corner of the ball if spit into 4 parts that is on the back towards you correct. Where is the aft of the shaft? Is homer saying the back of shaft or 45 degree postion if the top is 0 and the back is 90 degrees. I ask this because in a strong single action grip the left thumb and the #3 pressure point are said to be on the aft of the shaft if you look at the pics the left thumb is definately not on the back or 90 of the shaft it is on the 45 line. I ask this because i always thought of the number 3 pressure point as the fleshy pad on the longest part of your index finger. But homer says it is the first joint of the index finger. So when he says first joint does he mean the base of the index finger because that is a joint.

The problem arises in the understanding now for me because if the pressure point is at the base of the index finger and it was on the back of the shaft or 90 that would be a pretty strong right hand grip wich is not what he shows in the photos. If he is talking about the first joint of the finger being the knuckle in the middle of your index finger then if ots location was on the back or 90 degree of the shaft it woud be a very weak right hand grip wich again doesnt jive with the photo's. So to me the only answer that seems correct is that the #3 pressure point is the base or first joint of the index finger and its location is on the 45 or "AFT" of shaft wich gives you the right hand grip in the pictures. To me homers book can be like the scriptures you gotta read the context and its gotta comply with other passages no contradictions. I am qouteing from memory so please feel free to call me out on any mistakes, I knw you spent time with Homer so I was curious if he gave you a explanation on this "aft" location. Maybe you have explained as I am saying now before and I just misunderstood or maybe there is some details or anther way to look at it. Please help with clearing the fo for me on this location of the #3 pp.

I'm at Ocean Reef Club in Key Largo, Florida, these next two days leading an instructional event for their members. I'll ask Brett Jones, their Director of Instruction, to point a video camera at me for a few minutes tomorrow and see if I can help "clear the fog". Stay tuned!

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Pretty good video here!

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 90798)

I'm at Ocean Reef Club in Key Largo, Florida, these next two days leading an instructional event for their members. I'll see if I can get Brett Jones, their Director of Instruction, to point a video camera at me for a few minutes tomorrow and see if I can help "clear the fog". Stay tuned!

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Pressure point # 3, where are you?

http://youtu.be/GjvxevgmwJ4

Half Days at Ocean Reef

Shot the 'pressure point' video late this PM. Five minutes of fun coming your way as soon as I can get it downloaded (to my laptop) and uploaded to the site.

Meanwhile, left the tee at 7 PM after the 7 AM breakfast. Same schedule tomorrow.

Daylight . . . Dark.

Daylight . . . Dark.

Gotta luv it!

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There is no substitute for passion.
I am glad for you, Yoda.

BB,I do understand what you are saying,(I think)you would have a far deeper understanding of Homers works than me,I have only had it a couple of years.
In regard to #3,I got into the book a bit deeper than my usual "quick read"and came across 7-11,in the 7th edition,the 3rd paragraph page 104,where he spoke of the "on plane"pressure point thrust of the power accs translates the potential energy into clubhead "on plane " kinetic energy------always at right angles to the shaft,and a bit further on it relates to the sweetspot plane.

Does that fall more in line with inside quadrant of ball in relation to #3 pp on shaft?
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