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Yoda 03-05-2009 11:17 PM

No On Plane Left Arm
 
Except with Zero #3 Accumulator, the Left Arm Flying Wedge is not On Plane during the Backstroke.

:salut:

Scottgas2 03-05-2009 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 61740)
Except with Zero #3 Accumulator, the Left Arm Flying Wedge is not On Plane during the Backstroke.

:salut:

I should know better to question Yoda, but what does 6-B-3-O-1 mean
but "except for Ch 8 sec 1 and 3 (prelim and adjusted address) the entire left arm, the clubshaft, and the back of the left hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane - the plane of the left wrist cock motion."

O.B.Left 03-06-2009 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottgas2 (Post 61741)
I should know better to question Yoda, but what does 6-B-3-O-1 mean
but "except for Ch 8 sec 1 and 3 (prelim and adjusted address) the entire left arm, the clubshaft, and the back of the left hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane - the plane of the left wrist cock motion."


The "plane of the left wrist cock" is not the same concept as the inclined plane. It is the vertical hammer like cock and uncock of the left wrist with the Left Arm Flying Wedge maintained throughout. The swingers adjusted address where the left wrist is bent and the right wrist is flat being the exception to the maintenance of the LFFW. The hitter starting at Fix on the other hand sees the LFFW held in alignment while the left wrist cock goes from level to cocked to fully uncocked.

The left arm, assuming #3 angle is not zero, is not lying on the inclined plane. Golfers who place the grip more in the palm of the left hand for putting or short chips (basic motion), zero out their #3 angle for power regulation and will then have their left arm on the inclined plane.

ob



ob

O.B.Left 03-06-2009 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottgas2 (Post 61738)
It is exactly the image of the armless sleeve that confuses the direction of EA.
When power accumulator #3 is assembled and the left arm rotates, it seems the left arm and the clubshaft are both on plane and travel up the plane together. During this excursion, it seems that any stretching of the left arm must by definition be on plane. For sure, when the club shaft is parallel to the plane line on the ground, the shaft is on plane and EA pulls along the line of the shaft, no?



The left arm is not riding the inclined plane in the backstroke but is above it assuming the #3 angle is not zero. The popular notion of the clubface being said to be "square" when parallel to the left arm at top or end is incorrect as the left arm is not on plane.

ob

plgolfer 03-06-2009 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 61740)
Except with Zero #3 Accumulator, the Left Arm Flying Wedge is not On Plane during the Backstroke.

:salut:

Hi Yoda, in reviewing the alignment golf dvd for the nth time... I finally realised that I was exerting EA wrongly in the direction of the shaft instead of the left arm. I went to the driving range and doing acquired motion was getting laser like shots so much so that a guy next to me inquired what i had changed in my swing. I did not dare telling him about extensor action for fear of looks I would get.:salut: I am the guy from Mauritius a small island in the Indian Ocean, who orderd your alignment dvd.

Yoda 03-06-2009 01:40 PM

Two Planes of Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 61740)
Except with Zero #3 Accumulator, the Left Arm Flying Wedge is not On Plane during the Backstroke.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottgas2 (Post 61741)

I should know better to question Yoda, but what does 6-B-3-O-1 mean but "except for Ch 8 sec 1 and 3 (prelim and adjusted address) the entire left arm, the clubshaft, and the back of the left hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane - the plane of the left wrist cock motion."

The Plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge -- the Perpendicular Plane of the Left Wristcock Motion (Cocking and Uncocking per 4-B-0/1/2/3) -- is not the same as the Inclined Plane of the orbiting Sweetspot.

:)

Yoda 03-06-2009 02:00 PM

Island Golfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plgolfer (Post 61747)

Hi Yoda, in reviewing the alignment golf dvd for the nth time... I finally realised that I was exerting EA wrongly in the direction of the shaft instead of the left arm. I went to the driving range and doing acquired motion was getting laser like shots so much so that a guy next to me inquired what i had changed in my swing. I did not dare telling him about extensor action for fear of looks I would get.:salut: I am the guy from Mauritius a small island in the Indian Ocean, who orderd your alignment dvd.

Good to hear from you plgolfer. You have discovered and affirmed the promise of The Golfing Machine: As each individual alignment is correctly understood and mastered, the golfer experiences permanent improvement in his Total Motion.

Regarding your order of Alignment Golf, yours was one of the first to come in. I did not recognize the Mauritius country (mail) code and had to google it to find the answer. I was amazed to learn of its location and had fun including it in that post last fall!

:salut:

3Putt 03-06-2009 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 61740)
Except with Zero #3 Accumulator, the Left Arm Flying Wedge is not On Plane during the Backstroke.

:salut:

For a stroke that utilizes standard wrist action, does not the left wrist turn to the inclined plane? And would this not also put the left arm flying wedge and the plane of left wrist cock on the inclined plane?

Thanks
3Putt

Yoda 03-06-2009 11:38 PM

Buried Treasure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Putt (Post 61761)
For a stroke that utilizes standard wrist action, does not the left wrist turn to the inclined plane? And would this not also put the left arm flying wedge and the plane of left wrist cock on the inclined plane?

Thanks
3Putt

As intuitively obvious as this notion seems, it is not the case. Normally, the Left Arm does not -- and cannot -- lie in the Plane of the orbiting Sweetspot. Yet, the Left Arm Flying Wedge alignments remain intact. See Photo 10-6-B #2.

This exact subject was a hotly debated topic in a prior thread. Mathew posted with his three-dimensional perceptions, and I wrote a very specific post referencing the anatomy of the hand and the 'look' of a properly Cocked Left Wrist (visualize what it looks like with a hammer, and you've got it).

I can't research it now, but trust me, it's in the post-2005 archives. My guess is early 2008 (or possibly late 2007).

:salut:

Scottgas2 03-07-2009 02:16 PM

Yoda is of course genius as always.
10-6-b-2 (10-6-a-2 for that matter) show the left arm lying above the
plane at the top.

Yoda, what is the best way to achieve this feel? In 10-6-b-2 is the Right Arm
EA along the plane, or still below it?


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