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drewitgolf 03-03-2009 12:46 PM

Strutin' the Wedges
 
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Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 61275)
One of the big keys to why the figure 8 strap is a great training aid - learning the feel of that relationship.

Able to keep your Flying Wedges intact with that thing on ?

EdZ 03-03-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 61698)
Able to keep your Flying Wedges intact with that thing on ?

Yep.... the trick is to get the feel for the 'connection' with it in the usual position (near elbows) and then once you have that feel, move it down to just above the wrists (a few twists of the figure 8 will take out the slack). You still have the same feels of 'connection', but can keep the flying wedges, specificially the right forearm flying wedge, in alignment.

12 piece bucket 03-09-2009 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 61275)
He is perfectly in balance, on plane, and in Rhythm with a very stable center. And of course, a master of maintaining lag pressure, which I'd say he can feel all the way from his feet, to PP #3.

The connection isn't an 'action', it is a result of proper Rhythm and balance. If you look at players who had contact with Hogan, they all are great examples of that hands to chest relationship. Venturi, Knudson, Faldo to name a few. Mike Austin had this as well (as can be seen in his training aid, the 'flamer'). One of the big keys to why the figure 8 strap is a great training aid - learning the feel of that relationship.

I know connection can get a bad rap at times . . . . that connection deal with Mr. Hogan had LOTS to do with his hand path and plane angle too. You posted in another area about #1 being on the circle . . . . no question Hogan did that better than anyone.

A few observations . . . .

1. The connection deal . . . . for your arms to stay that "close to" or "with" your body you HAVE TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD PIVOT . . . no bobbing . . . or off plane shoulder motion. Not in the pictures how Mr. Hogan's head is lower at impact than at address . . he don't really do it like Tiger does . . . his head goes down on the backstroke unlike Eldrick who goes down coming down. In addition to that Hogan goes back up and in on plane fast due to his plane angle . . . so his arms don't look "away" from him as much as some like say Phil or Hoke . . . Phil's arms run off and Hoke just stays on the Turning Shoulder Plane.

2. Henny pointed this out which I thought was interesting . . . . Hogan sets a lot of lag but he RELEASES it . . . he's not dragging it in there really deep like Ben Doyle . . . he loads tons but he's letting it whip out via a suuuuuuuuuper fast release of #4 and #1.

EdZ 03-10-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 61836)

2. Henny pointed this out which I thought was interesting . . . . Hogan sets a lot of lag but he RELEASES it . . . he's not dragging it in there really deep like Ben Doyle . . . he loads tons but he's letting it whip out via a suuuuuuuuuper fast release of #4 and #1.

Yes, a very key source of power. Reminds me of a quote from one of the Mike Austin dvd's re: the swingers sequenced release and throw out

"the only part of the release that is delayed is the turning of the wrist back to the ball" (accumulator #3)

In other words - you 'can' throw (uncock) very intentionally, and with a lot of force, as long as you don't roll at the same time and are on plane. As long as the release is sequenced. At release point, Hogan really released with a lot of force.

There is a LOT of mechanical advantage in the swingers sequenced release. It is a very efficient move.

Imagine trying to throw the club 'down' into the ground from top, while keeping your back to the target as long as possible. Get the feel for that 'uncock THEN rolll'.

Swing smarter, not harder :)

O.B.Left 12-12-2009 05:10 PM

The original, clearer footage is now available online courtesy of the photographers son. Man I love this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWLLP...eature=channel

12 piece bucket 12-15-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 69696)
The original, clearer footage is now available online courtesy of the photographers son. Man I love this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWLLP...eature=channel

That is freaking SUBLIME . . . . I know you is good with the freeze frame pics . . . could you do a sequence on the swing at the 40 to 45 second mark? Beautiful stuff . . . .

O.B.Left 12-15-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 69811)
That is freaking SUBLIME . . . . I know you is good with the freeze frame pics . . . could you do a sequence on the swing at the 40 to 45 second mark? Beautiful stuff . . . .

I do em with my Casio on burst mode. 40 still bursts a second or whatever. Gonna need to get some batteries but fo shizzle.

gmbtempe 12-15-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 69811)
That is freaking SUBLIME . . . . I know you is good with the freeze frame pics . . . could you do a sequence on the swing at the 40 to 45 second mark? Beautiful stuff . . . .

I am no expert and threw this together from the 40 mark


gmbtempe 12-15-2009 03:54 PM

Is it me or is his back swing not as flat as I remember it?

O.B.Left 12-15-2009 04:12 PM

Thanks dude. Does that do it for ya bucket? I can shoot some uber fast stuff for ya if you want.

The way his right elbow moves, leads the hands in frame 5 jumps out at me.


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