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TeddyIrons 09-08-2009 01:46 AM

I do as many have described - step on the left heel and make sure my left glut goes back to the (invisible) pane of glass before my right hip rotates forward. I've only been doing this for about a month but it has transformed my game.

While on the course, to keep this feeling going I do the pump drill where I make sure I also send my right shoulder down towards the ball.

At home I use an impact bag which makes it quite easy to get this move grooved.

mb6606 09-08-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryti (Post 67544)
Is J P Holmes a hitter? Since relatively short backswing at the top, frozen bent right wrist at impact to follow through?

I watched him hit balls for 45 minutes Sat. - sure has a lot of pivot - so I cannot answer - could be 4 barrels? He defintely fades the ball and but not a high trajectory. Sure gets a lot of power for a shorter stocky guy.

BurleyGolf 09-08-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BurleyGolf (Post 62385)
I start my down swing by falling into my left side with leading hips and a harley move in the right wrist that lays the club off and creates massive lag. I do not try to fire my hips, or my torso, I try to feel as though I hold me hips and torso back as long a possible. All I want to do on the down swing is make a lateral slide and have the right arm fully extended by impact, the rest will take care of it's self.


Thanks,
BurleyGolf-



I added a video of how I start the down swing, one is full motion with practice move and the other is full no practice move.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrhcZn3W88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkJLtdSsFXQ

KevCarter 09-08-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BurleyGolf (Post 67564)
I added a video of how I start the down swing, one is full motion with practice move and the other is full no practice move.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrhcZn3W88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkJLtdSsFXQ

I'm not sure what to call it, but I sure like it Pro. I see a lot of our friend Mr. Trolio's pivot in there. Great job! :salut:

Kevin

strav 02-05-2010 02:09 AM

Johnny's take
 
This is Johnny Miller's view from 1976. Not claiming it is correct but may be of interest to some.

The various parts of the body do not complete their backswings at the same time. They wind up sequentially. The knees and hips will complete their backswing before the shoulders, the shoulders will complete their backswing before the arms, and while most of the wrist cock is done early in the backswing, there is a tad more wrist cock at the top. This additional wrist cock occurs due to the pull of the clubhead on the hands as the club finishes its backswing, and also because of the pull of the left side which initiates the downswing. The shaft bending in response to the change of direction causes the wrists to achieve their “maximum” cocked position.
In fact, the left leg makes its move into the downswing just as the hands and club have completed their backswing. Then there is a time lag before the pull initiated by the left leg travels up the left side and is felt in the hands. This time lag is the pause you feel. But it is a vital feel to have because it’s proof to you that your change of direction is correct.
You begin the downswing in the same way that you started the backswing, by a move from the knees. To be more precise, the knees move laterally toward the target. The reasoning is the same as on the backswing, too. On the backswing, you had to shift your weight to the right foot. As you start down, your weight is still on your right foot, and, as has been said, you must have your weight on the left foot in the downswing. So the knees go to work. The left knee pulls to the left and the right knee drives right behind it with a push off the right foot.
I want you to be quite certain on this point. It’s the knees that start the downswing, not the hips. So many teachers, and well known ones, too, still insist on a “lateral shift of the hips” initiating the downswing. This is a bunch of bunk. In reality, you can’t turn your hips without the legs initiating the movement.

Yoda 02-08-2010 12:17 AM

Johnny Miller . . . Then and Now
 
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Originally Posted by strav (Post 70924)

This is Johnny Miller's view from 1976. Not claiming it is correct but may be of interest to some.

. . . most of the wrist cock is done early in the backswing, there is a tad more wrist cock at the top.

And yet today, the 2010 version of Johnny Miller -- from the tower atop the 18th green at Riviera and the Northern Trust Open -- extolled the late wrist cock of the Champion, Steve Stricker, and proclaimed his swing (loosely quoted) the one "we may all be copying in the future".

My how things do change.

:salut:
Geometrically, the Snap Load [late Left Wrist Loading Action] is most efficient.

-- Homer Kelley

strav 02-16-2010 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 70954)
Geometrically, the Snap Load [late Left Wrist Loading Action] is most efficient.

-- Homer Kelley

Is this quote found in the sixth edition?


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