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no_mind_golfer 12-10-2008 04:21 PM

even More Resistance is futile...
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58704)
Golfbulldog

I never felt strongly about this issue. I always thought that ball flight distance was related to clubhead speed, and not to the pressure exerted on the shaft at impact in swingers where PA#2 is released passively. I am a little surprised that it also applies to hitters who drive load the clubshaft. Do you therefore believe that in a hitter's drive loading action, that the only factor is clubhead speed at impact and that push-pressure behind the clubshaft has no additive effect?

nmgolfer

I presume that the clubhead must have a finite amount of weight so that the clubface doesn't deform at impact. Presuming that the clubface is sufficiently rigid, you are presumably stating that additional clubhead weight and/or additional push-pressure thrust exerted by the golfer has no effect on ball flight distance (other than its effect on clubhead speed at impact). Is that correct?

What about the possibility of clubhead acceleration through impact due to drive loading in a hitter's action. In your mathematical model, you are presuming that clubhead speed remains constant for the entire duration of ball-clubface contact in both situations. However, wouldn't increased drive loading (thrust force = push-force) allow the clubhead to continue to accelerate while it remains in contact with the ball for a duration of 1/4000 second? A hitter is not simply applying increased mass behind his drive loading action - he is also thrusting and accelerating the club through the impact zone.

Jeff.

Jeff, There is nothing the golfer can do during impact that can effect the outcome of the shot. More Here

Jeff 12-10-2008 04:32 PM

nm golfer

Thanks for adding more commentary.

I need to think about this issue some more, although you seem to be correct.

Did you make a typo error at the end of your collisions paper?

You wrote -: "Prevent the club from drastically accelerating."

Don't you mean "decelerating"?

Jeff.

no_mind_golfer 12-10-2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58714)
nm golfer

Thanks for adding more commentary.

I need to think about this issue some more, although you seem to be correct.

Did you make a typo error at the end of your collisions paper?

You wrote -: "Prevent the club from drastically accelerating."

Don't you mean "decelerating"?

Jeff.

Jeff.... Yes... I fixed it now. I need to spell check and edit better. Also I like your approach ... simple documents with out fancy backgrounds etc. In time I'm going to put a bunch of docs on that web site and fix the index.htm page.

Jeff 12-10-2008 04:50 PM

nmgolfer

I look forward to your papers. I trust your maths more than Mandrin's. What is your url address for your index page?

Jeff.

Amen Corner 12-10-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58725)
nmgolfer

I look forward to your papers. I trust your maths more than Mandrin's. What is your url address for your index page?

Jeff.

Whats the story with Mandrin?

no_mind_golfer 12-10-2008 05:06 PM

http://nmgolfscience.tripod.com/
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58725)
nmgolfer

I look forward to your papers. I trust your maths more than Mandrin's. What is your url address for your index page?

Jeff.

Its not there yet but it will be :

http://nmgolfscience.tripod.com/

After a hiatus I'm beginning to focus on golf again and hope to get things better organized soon.

no_mind_golfer 12-10-2008 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen Corner (Post 58726)
Whats the story with Mandrin?

Who knows... Irritable bowel syndrome?

Amen Corner 12-10-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by no_mind_golfer (Post 58731)
Who knows... Irritable bowel syndrome?

:laughing9

drewitgolf 12-10-2008 05:19 PM

Clear Liquids
 
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Originally Posted by Amen Corner (Post 58726)
Whats the story with Mandrin?

I just love the Absolut Mandrin Vodka; it has a-peal.

efnef 12-11-2008 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Amen Corner (Post 58733)
:laughing9

Mandrin posts (at least he/she did the last time I was there) on Manzella's forum.


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