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I wanna be like Jack N. when I get older, like in March 2011. (Lynn can show me the details and some Hitting stuff, too, in April, but I'm going to concentrate on the Turning Shoulder Plane for now.)

Why?

"The basic 'Turning Shoulder Procedure' -"A." below-has been undoubtedly the most widely used Basic Plane. The player who takes the club head 'straight back from the ball' is using this Plane Angle. The club head is also brought "straight down through the ball' for Impact....It is extremely effective and dynamically correct..."

I want to be extremely effective and dynamically correct.

Is this a TSP Swing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp4EN5bc3yg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OQvg-ybNFQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsX68WZmnC8

What about this swing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MexhOFe6CtQ

So, let's forget what these men call their swings. For our purposes, are these TSP swings, or something else? I want my hands and arms to be passive and thrown by my hips straight back on Plane and the DOWN through the ball. In this case my hands will be educated to relax and enjoy the feeling of the power of my Pivot and of the # 3 PP loading and discharging through the ball. Notice in the last Swing how high Mr. Lee's hands are at Address. (1.42 in the tape)

These folks are not the teacher that Yoda is. Because of his teaching, and because of Mr.Kelly, I am able to understand why some things work in golf and some things do not. Pro golfers may not know how they do what they do but we can and try to copy some of it based on our body type and abilities.



:)

ICT

None of the above swings use the TSP.

Let me give you some advice. The Clubshaft defines the Plane Angle. We all know that; no big deal. But the Right Forearm Wedge alignment determines which Plane Angle you're going to use. You can Align it to the TSP, Elbow or whatever Plane you want. You don't know how to align the Right Forearm Wedge. Until you do, you will probably swing on the Elbow Plane.

Aligning the Right Forearm Wedge is easy to Teach and easy to Learn. It's aligned at Impact Fix and then re-established during Start-up. If you don't re-establish the Alignment during Start-up, then you'll end up on the Elbow Plane. No matter how much you try, you won't Swing on the TSP with the Right Forearm Wedge Aligned to it. I don't Care how hard you try to aim the #3 PP and go straight for the Plane Line, it isn't going to happen.

I don't know how to find the Alignment at the Top. If I don't get it during Start-up, I quit the Swing and go again. It's easy to get and Keep so that doesn't happen (on the range sometimes when my focus is elsewhere).

I can show you the Alignments in one minute but I can't put them into words. I can't put the Horizontal Hinge into words and I've tried that a number of times too.

Can you find the Alignments in the Book? I don't think so. But for starters, go to Impact Fix on the Elbow Plane. Look, Look, Look. Then move the Right Forearm Wedge to the TSP, Ahhh, the Wedge is turned much more. That changes everything.

Eyes of the Beholder
 

No, they are not TSP swings, but let's leave that for now. We need a reality check so that you may profit from this video.

I am shocked at the analysis on the Lee Gravity Swing:

At 1.35:

". . . a complete absence of applied force from the upper body. The arms simply fall into the downswing . . ."

Then, continuing at 1:42:

"A gentle pivot of the leading hip . . . during delivery."

:shock:

How 'bout this instead:

"A strong, upper body thrust with its driving right arm hitting action . . ."

"Led by an exaggerated pivot and a needless expenditure of energy."

Hey, it's okay to see it different!

:laughing9

Is there a famous golfer who did?
 

And all I can say is "Wow!" I must've really misunderstood that section of TGM. That has happened before, though.

Thanks!
ICT

This is what you're up against in Florida. My advice is to say your stuff, exit right, and then just be nice. Smile. :)

So I'm looking at the picture of the girl in the book...
 

((7th edition pp.156-158 ) was that Mrs. HK BTW) and I see her hands up really high near her ears and when I compare her hands to Watson, Nicklaus, Love III, and Miller, they all look closely like her hand position.

If I extend my RFW fully, and use RFT, my wedges feel close to my ears. I think that's what your saying, Daryl, right? Are you and Lynn saying you can't give me a TSP pro example?

Are Nicklaus and those guys "Squared Shouldered?" That's almost the same thing, right?

I think that Hogan, Moe Norman, Fowler and other guys that look like that are Elbow Plane guys, because the club flies around at Elbow level.

I have a feeling that I'm really misunderstanding the pictures and the text which is ok because I'm in the right website. :)

I would like to not feel like such a huge moron though, in this simple identification of the TSP from the book and tapes. I think it's too late for that though. :sad2:


I'm right to like the TSP, though? :confused1


ICT

Lynn, do you think this guy knows how wrongly he is stating his stuff?
 

Is this a case of simply not knowing how to describe what he does or is this his way of presenting a "story" to sell product like Col. Sanders 12 herbs and spices?

Where is 12PB when you heed him?
:)

ICT

No, that's not what I'm taking about. Go to Impact Fix with an Intact Right Forearm Wedge and put the Shaft on the Elbow Plane, then, keeping a "Level" Right Wrist, move the Shaft to the TSP. Look how that changes the Alignment of the Wedge. It doesn't only change the Shaft and forearm, but the entire way the Wedge is Aligned is different. Note also that you can have the Shaft on the Elbow Plane and have the Wedge aligned to the TSP and Visa Versa.

If you don't see a major Alignment Change then you don't fully grasp the Right Forearm Wedge. You need to Bend your Right Wrist, Keeping it Level and then wrap it with Ace Bandages to keep it stable. Then go to Impact Fix, however you won't have the opportunity to change the #3 Accumulator Angle. I guess you gotta go one on one.

I've found many examples of the TSP used by Pro's and have put them up for Review. Look at Phil Mickelson.

Yes,

He mentions Jack Nicklaus as a gravity golfer. Somehow I don't think Jack had time to wait for gravity to move the club ;-)

Seeing videos of Jack Nicklaus from his haydays doesn't exactly connotate with effortless power. Power - certainly. But also a lot of effort.

The "gravity stroke" on the video actually reminds me of Jason Zuback's. I guess gravity can get you easily past the 400 yards mark - as long as you back it up with Zuback's strength and explosivity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9eKh_VW0gg

Thanks Lynn, Daryl, Bernt!
 

Thanks for the information and good humor. I love the Nicklaus/Zuback stuff and I see the Lee charade now that my eyes have been open.

Daryl, I will do my curtain rods later to see your point. Thanks.

Believing you all to be correct, as I do, brings some other questions to mind.

Phil is a better golfer than I am. Having said that, is his flakiness attributable more to his brain or his use of TSP? Never has a man thrown away so much talent and money so easily and willingly, imho. :crybaby:

One more theoretical question. Let's suppose I invent a better marketing program for a golf system. I'm going to call it the "Magnetic GOLF!" Let's suppose in the legal fine print I say "The BEST GOLF Swing IS most aptly taught by Homer Kelly and Lynn Blake Golf. I am merely providing a short cut to get you golfing in 4 weeks and to help you shoot sub-90 scores most of the time. If you really want to be a golfing stud, go to Lynn Blake Golf and get a clue."


MAGNETIC GOLF- GIVEN THE METAL/FIBERGLASS CONTENT OF MOST GOLF CLUBS AND YOUR NATURAL ELECTRICAL AURA, YOU TOO CAN LEARN HOW TO HIT HIGHLY EFFECTIVE GOLF SHOTS IN LESS THAN 4 WEEKS!!! BY LEARNING THE SECRET MAGNETIC HANDSHAKE, AND THE MAGNETIC GOLF SLING, YOUR GOLF WILL REACH A NEW LEVEL! UNLOCK THE POWER OF YOUR HIPS AND PASSIVE ARMS TO BE DRIVEN BY THE ANCIENT TECHNIQUES OF THOSE FIRST GOLFERS WHO WERE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE AND THE MAGNETIC CORE OF THE EARTH. ENJOY MAGNETIC GOLF Today !


Let's say that many of the hippies in MN, Iowa, and Wisconsin, not to mention Philadelphia and Detroit, decide to embrace "The Cosmic Golf Series" Featuring "The Magnetic Swing." Drug abuse and stress goes down. People take more showers and live longer as they walk the course with their Environment Bags (recyclable). And I make a few million dollars of which 50% goes to Hatian refugees. Is that a bad thing?


I think that's what a lot of guys are doing on You Tube and around the world. it's taken me less than a year to really figure out North and golfing South. How can these other guys with responsible positions in the golfing world not know?

If I could effectively teach CPR, without discussing a single major organ, and had people everywhere saving lives with the ummm "Bosom Low Separation Hand Compression,"Wouldn't I be morally compelled to do so as long as I clearly indicated that my goal was to create a simple, effective system?

I think Lynn should announce the magnetic golf system at the golf show for 5 minutes and see who gets it. He should announce that he will ask Trackman to start working on taking magnetic swing readings. Brian Manzella would be the first one to endorse it. :)

ICT