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MizunoJoe

01-14-2013 02:44 PM

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Don't waste your time on this ICT, he's jerking you around. If he could understand what you wrote well enough to ask a question, then he would be able to ask in English. :hand:

innercityteacher

01-14-2013 11:03 PM

Good lookin' out!

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 94947)

Don't waste your time on this ICT, he's jerking you around. If he could understand what you wrote well enough to ask a question, then he would be able to ask in English. :hand:

As the kids in my school would say! "Real rap," (you're right) "No fraudin'!" (I'm not kidding!)

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innercityteacher

01-15-2013 03:38 PM

Right Forearm Angle of Approach !

Start watching for it at 3:35 in the video. http://youtu.be/lBqkxZ9rnqI

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innercityteacher

01-20-2013 10:10 PM

Square / Closed shoulders = Horizontal Hinge Hammering!!!

More mirror work revealed that I NORMALLY SET UP WITH MY SHOULDERS SLIGHTLY OPEN!!!

Lynn wasted no time showing me Mid-Body hands during our four days together. The result? Horizontal Hinge Hammering!!!

Coupled with a firm Bent Right Wrist, and a correct Right Forearm Angle of Approach, square to closed shoulders make the Horizontal Hinge Hammer happen (sorry)! Doesn't matter how I take the club back or how I trigger the down swing, left heel plant, left knee point, right heel lift, right knee point, right elbow re-connection no matter, a square or closed front shoulder makes the hammer work.

Mid- Body Hands or Moe Norman's angled set-up, sets the shoulders correctly for the solid hit!

My theory and confirmed observation is that my shorter left leg and artificial left hip simply lead me to always stand with my left shoulder open and has to be purposefully closed. (And for some strange reason, the elbow plane achieved by a lawnmower pull takeaway feels like it generates a lot more lag into the ball!)

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innercityteacher

01-22-2013 01:35 PM

Lawnmower pull with attitude!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6375&page=12&highlight=lawn+mower +pull

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One Man's Journey

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Originally Posted by fladan

I read this thread with great interest as I've struggled getting the club to "lay on the line" for years. Lynn and I have worked quite a bit on this, and during our school at Pine Tree last week, another contributor to being "under plane" in startup/backstroke came into view.

The golfer can have EA, minimal pivot (acquired motion) and still have trouble maintaining the clubshaft's alignment to the plane line; wrist conditions (Mechanical Checklist, Section 4/5, #16) also play a role. Remember the left wrist cock is a vertical motion. Go to impact fix - then cock the left wrist vertically. This gives you the wrist alignments at top (and at finish)

I found my left wrist arched as I moved from startup into backstroke. This caused the need for a compensating move at top. Life got much simpler lately when I corrected this error.

Moral to the story: Use 12-3 Mechanical checklist. The answers are there!

Great post, Dan. Just like your swing!
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innercityteacher

01-24-2013 02:56 PM

[About club shafts! Ruminations about the concept of throwing the hands at the ball and releasing the club! Steady head=Fast hands!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=25490&highlight=fred+couples#post 25490

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Thrust vs. Speed - Clubshaft Stiffness (6-C-2-D LAG LOSS) GM#49
Originally Posted by Ray Cayse
Yoda,

How do you suppose Homer would explain some of the trick shots of "Heiter the Hit Man" or the 300 plus yard drives by Fred Couples with Tom Watson's wife's 3 metal a few years back?

Ray Cayse

The explanation was clearly presented in my prior post. However, I will expand on it a bit, then reiterate the principle.

The Sweet Spot seeks its in-line condition with the #3 Pressure Point. This is the Centrifugal Line of Pull that exists regardless of Shaft Flex. As I stated in my earlier post, Shaft Flex is important to the Swinger only to minimize Clubface deviation. It means nothing in terms of power. This fact is clearly demonstrated by Fred Couples -- a consumate Swinger -- ripping the Ball 300 yards with a woman's (presumably) flexible shaft.

That said, Fred Couples would have ripped it 300 yards had the Shaft been Stiff. And maybe it was. Who knows? In any event, it makes no difference, because like Homer said...

Shaft Flex means little to the Swinger. Regardless of Flex, it performs as a piece of string.

[/quote]http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=25616&highlight=fred+couples#post 25616

About Freddy Couples...not an unqualified recommendation but a stationary head!

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1-L THE MACHINE CONCEPT #1 The Stationary Post GM#145
Originally Posted by bobbywayne
Originally Posted by Yoda
Originally Posted by mb6606
The pictures in 9-1 and Yoda's keeping the head stationary at impact fix would suggest a slight reverse pivot move?????

There is no Reverse Pivot in The Golfing Machine. There is only the correct Pivot. That Pivot is kept Centered by the Stationary Head, in turn kept Centered between the Stationary Feet (9-1-1 #1; 9-1-3; 9-2-1 #1; 9-2-2 #1).

Many 'authorities' believe the Head should -- indeed must -- move to the right on the Backstroke. Not surprisingly, the Position Golf, Pivot-Controlled-Hands procedures they teach exacerbate that tendency. In contrast, Golfers who embrace Alignment Golf and its Hand-Controlled-Pivot procedures soon learn that the proper Right Forearm Pickup eliminates any urge to move the Stationary Head.

The Body moves only as necessary to accomodate and support the On Plane assignments of the Hands. That includes the Downstroke Right Shoulder function -- Momentum Transfer (Left Arm Thrust) for Swingers and Launching Pad (of Right Arm Thrust) for Hitters. The Legs -- the Feet and Knees -- stabilize that motion as they pull the Shoulder Downplane via the Hip Action. Basically, Machine Golfers learn to just stand there...take it up...

And rip it!

Bold Red emphasis by bobbywayne

I would never have believed or considered this until I attended the Secrets of The Golfing Machine Workshop put on by Chuck Evans and Yoda. For many years I had been of the "low, slow, straight back with the left arm and left shoulder" group. The Magic Right Forearm was a difficult concept to accept and, for me, to learn. I stuck with the drills, and only recently have I been able to hit shots. Honestly, you do not have to move your head. For you "low, slow, straight back with your left arm, left shoulder" players, this will feel -- comparatively -- like you're standing still and chopping wood. But, I have never hit the ball more solid than with this technique.

Watch Fred Couples.

He stands there...his Stationary Head centered between his Stationary Feet.

He picks the Club almost straight up to the Top. His Head remains Stationary and his Left Foot remains Flat. He is in perfect Balance.

He delivers the Club almost straight down into Impact. [Talk about your small Pulley Wheel encounters (2-K #6)!] His Head remains Stationary and his Feet maintain his perfect Balance.

He remains, at the age of 44, one of the longest Drivers of the Ball on the PGA TOUR and has won $1,820,495 year-to-date.

No 'move to the right.'

No Heel lift on the Backstroke.

No exaggerated 'leg drive.'

Just the smoothest Swing in Golf producing some of the longest Shots and lowest scores in Golf.

Go figure.
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innercityteacher

01-24-2013 03:12 PM

Learning something new everyday!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23493&highlight=fred+couples#post 23493

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Originally Posted by mattsdad
Matt,

In the Collin Neeman lesson videos, Lynn talks about promoting a fade by using angled hinging. I believe that Collin is a Swinger, so I am wondering how to reconcile your statement about the inclination of the clubhead to close (which is what I experience when I try to Swing with angled hinging) with Lynn's advice to Collin.

RT
With angled hinging, the clubface will not close during the impact interval as much as it does with horizontal hinging. This in turn will impart some "fade" spin onto the ball. A perfectly centered impact with horizontal hinging produces perfect compression and, given the correct ball position, a dead-straight shot.

What Lynn means is that in general an angled hinge produces a fade. I was saying that when you do Swing with an angled hinge that due to the physics of Swinging the clubface WANTS to close. Each and every stroke you need to fight the tendency of the clubface to close down and produce horizontal hinging.

So in summary: when Swinging the clubface naturally wants to close through impact. To make an angled hinge, you can't let that happen. If you do successfully keep the closing action from happening, you will produce a slight fade. As usual with The Golfing Machine, things come full circle once again.

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Originally Posted by jim_0068
Swinging with an angled hinge is easy. It took me a while to find a way to reproduce it consistently and when i describe how to do it below some of you will probably chastize me lol.

Basically, everything in the backswing stays the same and everything up to impact stays the same.

What you have to ELIMINATE is the SWIVEL.

NO SWIVELING!

Once you get to "both arms straight" you have to have this feel of (here we go) letting the clubhead pass your hands.

Hope that helps.
Exactly what I do too. Thank G__ I'm not the only one.

Very interesting!

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innercityteacher

01-24-2013 03:29 PM

More interesting info!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...es#post 22072

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12 piece bucket
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Originally Posted by Stumper
The Lee Buck question is pretty simple to answer. It's the same answer for David Duval and Lee Trevino.

They played the game "shut-faced" to borrow a term from SftPS (I know it's not a very popular book in TGM circles, but I really feel think it's a solid manual to follow.). What that means is they take a strong grip, a flat left wrist and much less supination and pronation than a typical technique. Essentially, they are blocking off hooks and hit powerfades all day long.

This is (imho) the most accurate way to swing.

Also, I don't believe hooks have much to do with having your wrist flat or bowed or arched at the top, regardless of your grip. In essence, regardless of your grip, your hands will have opened to the same degree. this does not mean they open the same amount however, just that the left hand/wrist will turn to adjust the swing plane regardless of grip (ie a weak grip will open more than a strong grip). On the way down, your natural inclination is to rotate the hands/clubface the FULL 90* regardless of grip. The result? Hooks with a strong grip.

Therefore the assumption is that a flat left wrist + strong grip = closed clubface. that's not really true because the bending of the wrists can in no way open or close the clubface (we can all agree there). This leaves us in a strange place: if the clubface pointing skyward at the top isn't really closed, why does the ball hook? that answer is a bit of conjecture, but mine is this: the unbending of the left wrist/bending of the right makes it harder for the right to work back "on top" of the left (and vise versa), which is the same motion as closing the clubface. (I need a better term than working back on top...do you guys know what I'm trying to say?)
Good analysis. Bending the Left Wrist closes the clubface and makes its alignment erratict. Arching the Left Wrist actually OPENS the clubface . . . Hogan Fades Trevino fades etc.

I think you are spot on on teh "right hand working on top." Basically it's easier to keep your Right Forearm from being too high and pointing outside the Plane Line.

Nice post.
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innercityteacher

01-24-2013 03:32 PM

Nice!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2431&page=2&highlight=fred+couple s

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Just Where Is That 'Aft' Left Thumb?
Originally Posted by ram418

It may be a little leap, but both of those pictures imply that the left hand is holding the club more in the fingers and not under the pad of the left hand. Certainly the thumb is "short" and not extended down the aft side of the shaft.
Two very prevalent misconceptions are surfacing here, and both need correcting.

First, Homer Kelley taught a 'Short' left thumb down the Aft side of the Shaft. Nowhere in The Golfing Machine is the advice given to 'extend' the left thumb down the Clubshaft ('Long' Thumb). Instead, the left forefinger is in a 'trigger finger' condition with the Shaft across the middle joint (the medial phalanx) and with the thumb near the tip. This is far different than the 'long' thumb Grip with its 'in the palm' Clubshaft and consequent 'ham-fisted' look.

Second, most TGM students know that, in the Strong Single Action Grip (10-2-B), the #3 Pressure Point is located on the Aft side (the 'behind' side) of the Clubshaft and that the left thumb is placed on this same line (10-2-0). Unfortunately, few of these students understand the Three-Dimensional alignment (Down, Out and Forward) of the On Plane Clubshaft during Impact. Accordingly, they make a contorted effort to put the thumb behind the Shaft while the Left Wrist is in its classic Adjusted Address position (Bent); the Clubshaft perpendicular to the Plane Line; and the back of the Left Hand facing the Target. This is all wrong.

Instead, the Grip should be taken in the Impact Fix condition. Here, the thumb will be located with the Left Wrist Flat; the Clubshaft leaning Forward; and the back of the Left Hand facing down the Angle of Approach (to 'right field', i.e., the 'alternate Target Line' per 7-2-3). In this alignment, the On Plane left thumb appears (and is) clearly 'behind' the Shaft (Aft). Then, when returned to the Classic Address position, the thumb will appear down the right side of the Clubshaft.
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innercityteacher

01-24-2013 03:39 PM

Ok, I have to actually study this!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2431&page=3&highlight=fred+couple s

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vjcapron
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A point to ponder
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Arch your Left Wrist at Impact Fix . . . Clubface will OPEN. So maybe some people HOOK who have the Arch at the Top because the have to compensate for the alignment at the top which looks "shut" but is really OPENNING the clubface.

One interesting thing that I picked up by watching Yoda give this guy a lesson was that he was a bit Arched and as a result couldn't fully uncock to Full-Lever Extension. As a result could get completely DOWN because his Left Arm Wedge couldn't work properly.

gotta love the Machine.
Arch your left wrist at impact fix...clubface will tend to open. Correct. Actually, the clubface will be slightly delofted as well as opened slightly. Now try this...

Take your normal grip and cock the left wrist so the club comes straight up and the club and left arm form a 90 degree angle. Hold the club in front of your chest, arms parallel to the ground, clubshaft pointing to the sky, clubface "square". This mimics the left arm - clubshaft relationship at the top of the swing (90 degrees). Now arch your left wrist. The clubface will close as the shaft is axially rotated into a closed position, exactly the opposite effect as arching the wrist had on the clubface while in the address/impact position.

I picked up this interesting tidbit from a famous instructor who knows TGM inside and out, and I haven't heard anyone talk about this since.

As the number 3 accumulator angle increases or decreases, the resulting effects on the clubface change dramatically in regards to bowing (arching) or cupping (bending) the left wrist.

So, at the top of the swing, assuming a 90 degree angle between clubshaft and left arm exists, bowing the wrist shuts the clubface due to the shaft being axially rotated closed.

More food for thought...

Ben Hogan...

Cupped at the top...has an opening effect on the clubface...AND bowed at impact...also has an opening effect on the clubface...a perfect formula for a left-to-right ballflight.

That's the secret right there. It's not just the cupped left wrist at the top. It's not just the bowed left wrist at impact..it is the combination of the two.

innercityteacher

01-24-2013 03:44 PM

Ok, the last drill for me for today!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2431&page=4&highlight=fred+couple s

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A Shut-and-Open Case
Originally Posted by okie
I got into it with a club pro about whether or not an arched/bent left wrist opens/closes, the face of the club. I was unconvincing! I remembered this thread and vjapron's contention that at the top of the swing an arched wrist is in fact causing a shut face etc. Does anyone know for sure? I tend towards an arched lag-insured left wrist at the top I can also clear the left side of the course with the best of them! This would be good to know. Okie out.
Do this experiement:

Hold the club in the left hand only and extend your arm (with the clubshaft in-line) directly in front of you (and opposite the left shoulder) until the shaft is parallel to the ground. Now, BEND you left wrist (so that the shaft moves horizontally to your left and out-of-line with the left arm). Maintaining this alignment, put the club down on the ground, and take a look at the clubface: It's CLOSED, right? That is, it looks left of the target line.

Now, again assuming the starting position as described above, ARCH your left wrist (so that the shaft moves horizontally to your right), then set the club down. The clubface is now OPEN, right? That is, it looks right of the target line.

So, until they make Inclined Planes different from Horizontal Planes, it's . . .

End of story!

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I get it and will fire my hands and "release" the club as Yoda instructed with gusto!

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innercityteacher

01-27-2013 12:41 AM

:angel: :golfcart2: :study: One of my new fav videos esp. 2 min+

http://youtu.be/_WEK-RlkYyQ

http://youtu.be/tKZh4dvW0Xg

http://youtu.be/WtlJ6ydWVeU

http://youtu.be/EDNCLchMYRI

It is my belief that there are common traits of letting the hands be thrown at the ball at speed, not throwaway, between the Swings of Mike Austin, Ben Hogan, Sam Snead, Byron Nelson and Homer Kelly's clear thinking and instruction passed on by our friend Lynn Blake and others! I'm sorry Lynn, this took me so long to figure out, though you showed it to me over two years ago!

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innercityteacher

01-30-2013 01:56 PM

A steady head = fast hands!

At the range for 48 degrees and fog to hit a basket and working on bucket drills and stepping left. By keeping my head stationary, the Impact Fix Bent Right Wrist/Flat Left Wrist combo are thrown at the ball with power through the Both Arms Straight position.

Hitting the center of the ball produces a dependable fade and the inside quadrant produces about an extra club's length and a very straight to slight draw result.

Daryl

01-30-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95043)

A steady head = fast hands!

At the range for 48 degrees and fog to hit a basket and working on bucket drills and stepping left. By keeping my head stationary, the Impact Fix Bent Right Wrist/Flat Left Wrist combo are thrown at the ball with power through the Both Arms Straight position.

Hitting the center of the ball produces a dependable fade and the inside quadrant produces about an extra club's length and a very straight to slight draw result.

Hit it somewhere in Between. :)

innercityteacher

01-31-2013 12:46 AM

Bending the Bow!

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 95044)

Hit it somewhere in Between. :)

I'm trying to understand the power of PP # 4, the left arm against the torso, Tonight, before the current deluge of rain and while it was still 65 degrees outside, I RFT'd to my top, on a very flat plane and then slowly moved my right heel off the ground pointing my knee to first 10 o'clock then to 12 o'clock (straight ahead), In both cases, the slower I pointed my knee, the more snapping power the club face imparted to the ball and the more consistency of the shot. :occasion:

What a joy to hit through Both Arms Straight at will! :D Bringing the knee to 12 o'clock, for me, yields a straight ball with a slight fade. My head is perfectly stable and it feels like I take all day to strike the ball! It is a wildly strong strike but I finish in perfect balance! The 10 o'clock knee position yields a dead pull. I can modify these strikes with ball position and face opening /closing but I am amazed at how much power the right hip slowly generates as it pushes/pulls the Power Package until the left arm snaps and the wedges really fire through!

I can't wait to start adding some lead tape to several clubs to see the resulting effect the increased mass will add to my shots. I soon will try the heaviest clubs I can get at Golf Galaxy and the highest swing weights to see if I can add some yards to my shots.

http://youtu.be/tP3scE26VdI

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MizunoJoe

01-31-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95045)

I can't wait to start adding some lead tape to several clubs to see the resulting effect the increased mass will add to my shots. I soon will try the heaviest clubs I can get at Golf Galaxy and the highest swing weights to see if I can add some yards to my shots.

http://youtu.be/tP3scE26VdI

ICT

You are turning into a PGA Tour pro club-ho with the heavy clubs! :hello2:

innercityteacher

01-31-2013 03:01 PM

Head position for the "snap release."

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Stationary Head Primer
Originally Posted by MJCB
Please could someone recomend some drills to stop the head moving backwards away form the target during the downstroke. I have been hitting balls with a straw in my mouth to monitor the head position. On video if the head stays relatively still I tend to lose my height through impact. Any help would be appreciated.
MB,

Moving the Head backwards during the Downstroke is a Sway (the Fourth Snare 3-F-7-D), and it is the product of a malfunctioning Pivot. Before diving into work on that problem, though, make sure your head is set properly to begin with.

Do you set your Head position first at Impact Fix, and then attempt to keep it Stationary? Or do you, like most people, start with your Head in an Adjusted Address position that ignores a proper Impact Fix position (and therefore cannot possibly be maintained through Impact)? My guess is the latter.

So, what is a good Head position at Impact Fix?

First, a plumb line from your chin to the ground should fall precisely between your Feet. Your Head should form the tip of an isosceles triangle whose base is the Feet. Most people hang back -- probably in response to instruction that emphasizes that the Head should be 'behind the Ball' and even 'over the right knee.' Consequently, their Head and Feet form a right triangle.

Second, the Head should be located a good deal lower than most people's 'normal' Address position. The exact position will be dictated by the amount of Knee Bend and Waist Bend. In turn, these are determined by the distance the Hips must move to enable the Right Forearm to return precisely to its pre-selected Impact Fix Angle of Approach (pointing at the Plane Line well in front of the Ball).

Bottom Line: Most people -- even good players -- move their Head entirely too much during the Stroke. And one of the primary reasons is that they have failed to set it properly in the first place.
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I have made lots of mistakes by hanging my head too far back but now know that Impact Fix is a set of related body, head, arms and hands positions. The above observation by Yoda explains to me why I cannot drive my right knee to a 10 o'clock since it causes my head to "lean back" given my front leg irregularities, artificial hip and the heartbreak of Psoriasis. :laughing9 I hit a straighter baby fade with more power because I do not run out of right arm and hit an Angle Hinge through the ball. I am working on a Horizontal Hinge.

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innercityteacher

01-31-2013 11:34 PM

The right knee driving through both arms straight!

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95047)

What I am calling a "snap release" may not be a TGM SNAP RELEASE. I'm not sure and I can always learn new stuff. :dontknow:

What I am referring to is the slow movement of my right heel and knee towards the inner quadrant of the ball, maintaining my balance and suddenly having my Extensor Action- laden club shoot down-plane pulverizing the ball in a very repeatable pattern of flight. My finish is a very balanced, best seat in the house,Full Swivel with an "Arrow through the ears," position.

I set up with an Impact Fix position with my head actually creeping forward almost directly over the ball AND STAYING THERE! :hello2: I then RFT feeling the arms stretch and move the right knee slowly keeping my head stationary which causes the club to SNAP through the ball with a "crack," unless I am hitting irons. :golfcart2:

So, imagine my happiness when I found this:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3089&highlight=right+knee#post308 9

I have made lots of mistakes by hanging my head too far back but now know that Impact Fix is a set of related body, head, arms and hands positions. The above observation by Yoda explains to me why I cannot drive my right knee to a 10 o'clock since it causes my head to "lean back" given my front leg irregularities, artificial hip and the heartbreak of Psoriasis. :laughing9 I hit a straighter baby fade with more power because I do not run out of right arm and hit an Angle Hinge through the ball. I am working on a Horizontal Hinge.

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http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ght=right+knee

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As with Hogan's right knee move - when you take the 'slack' out, you have in a very real way "lengthened" the lever - in fact at both arms straight I can often literally feel the 'full line' of the train - from my right foot, all the way through my body, to impact. Supporting impact along the 'entire' train. A good drill is to move from impact fix to the finish with 'high hands' - trying to get your hands as far away from your right ankle as you can, such that you have a bit of 'Saturday Night Fever' - a diagonal line from your hands to your right ankle.

Choo, chooo...... all aboard! Drive that train - from the ground up, just like a pitcher does.
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innercityteacher

02-01-2013 10:23 PM

Impact Fix-The start of Hogan's waggle- right elbow to right hip=RFT?

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95048)

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ght=right+knee

Impact Fix is the beginning of great things for a golfer. So, it's logical to think the correctly done Impact Fix could be enhanced. :angel: It is called Hogan's Waggle where the right elbow is pulled to the right hip setting up the Right Forearm Angle of Approach and bowing the Flat Left Wrist making it even well, flatter. Also, pulling the right elbow to the right hip aligns the left elbow with the left hip. If I keep it there, yes, as Yoda showed me years ago ("let's see a little more of that left forearm at Mid-Body Hands Patrick!"), my hand alignment allow for maintaining the Line of Compression and maximize my Pivot. Does pulling my right elbow to my right qualify as a type of RFT if I use the move to start the Pivot?

I was reminded about all this as I tried Martin Chuck's "Tour Striker Educator." His device and DVD showed me how to do the alignments Yoda and Daryl had spoken about with a feeling of repeatability and consistency. :golfcart2:

My Pivot feels very short and the ball flies very high and far with a draw that does not cross the target line unless I want it to. My chronic "chicken wing" formed by years of want to be Moe Norman (in some ways) was effectively replaced with connected rotation and a solid line of compression in balance.

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innercityteacher

02-02-2013 10:48 AM

Now, for those reading this, please remember that Yoda worked very hard with me for four 1/2 days about a month after a horrific episode in my life and emotionally and physically I was a wreck. ( The trip was paid for and tickets in hand so I went.) :redface: Yoda was showing me that life could go on and really helping me in an awesomely positive way much deeper than golf but using golf. Everything that now works in golf for me, plus a great deal of mental relief and enjoyment has come about through Lynn and this forum. :king:

I would not understand the definition of "what works" without Lynn and my co-participants here , given my physical imperfections and years of confusing advice. There would be no value in Martin Chuck's observations, without Lynn working with me. He would simply be another voice in the crowd of dodgy people giving half-baked advice, unlike Lynn explaining TGM.

Thanks Lynn and LBG !

Yoda	02-03-2013 11:15 AM

Birthday Boy!

Happy Birthday Patrick!

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innercityteacher

02-03-2013 04:01 PM

And your game will immediately go to the next level!"

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 95051)

Happy Birthday Patrick!

:clock: :3gears: :headbang: :occasion:

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"You must prepare...." :golfcart2: :golfcart2:

"And it must happen way back here... Delivery line prep, delivery line un-cocking prep, delivery line roll prep...why is this important? Because that's where the golfing machine lives!"

http://youtu.be/jqNlEy0pNBc

Thanks Yoda!

Daryl

02-07-2013 08:58 AM

Happy Birthday Patrick!

innercityteacher

02-07-2013 09:30 PM

Right Wrist Magic

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 95060)

Happy Birthday Patrick!

Realized quite by accident the other day how much power I felt when I FROZE my Right Forearm Angle of Approach by cocking my right thumb up and in reality achieving a maximum Bent Right Wrist! Whole Power Package came alive! :toothy: Keeping my left elbow synched-up with my left Hip produced a "free-wheeling Forward Swivel and a high draw and a solid thunk of the club with a dynamically formed Horizontal Hinge. Turns out I was Chicken-winging and not Swiveling and not Horizontal Hinging.

Imagine my joy when I saw this:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56248&highlight=right+wrist#post5 6248

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Yoda
Administrator

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 10,650
Supporting Cast
johngolf33 wrote:

Dear Yoda,

I have been trying to freeze the bent right wrist as I "drive load" the handle on the downswing in a crossline direction. It has taken the hook out of my drives I guess by eliminating any flippy hand garbage. Does this make sense?

JG33,

Absolutely it makes sense to 'freeze' the Bent Right Wrist in an effort toproduce better Golf Shots. Also, be sure to extend your concept to include the entireRight Forearm Flying Wedge assembly -- the On Plane Right Elbow, Forearm,Bent Right Wrist, #3 Pressure Point and its Lag Loading, the Stressed (Bent)Shaft and the Lagging Sweetspot. It is that entire unit that is taken UpPlane to the Top, delivered Down Plane into Impact (2-F and 7-3) and sustainedintact until the Both Arms Straight Position (the Follow-Through / 8-11).

And while the Right Forearm Flying Wedge will actually be On Plane only duringthe Release and through Impact, it should Feel continuously aligned inits own plane from Fix to Follow-through. This is an incrediblyimportant Feel that must be mastered if you hope to achieve anywhere close toyour potential as a golfer.

__________________
Yoda

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innercityteacher

02-07-2013 11:21 PM

whoa!

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95062)

I mis-spoke sorry! My right hand and wrist are fairly under the club in the base of the right fingers and not cocked actually very level. The Right Forearm Angle of Approach is so flat that the Horizontal Hinge turns over effortlessly with a strong Finish Swivel AS LONG AS MY LEFT ELBOW MOVES IN CONCERT WITH MY LEFT HIP, hammering through the ball! I can see why Homer said to learn to Swing before Hitting since that basic Alignment of Left Hip and Left Elbow is crucial in understanding Impact Fix and the Angle Hinge.

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innercityteacher

02-08-2013 07:40 PM

The beauty of Mid-Body hands....I finally get it!

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95063)

Lynn, of course , who else, showed me Mid-Body Hands three years ago. I was nervous, wobbly and filled with millions of ideas plus physical imbalances. :D I really wanted to do Impact Fix and Lynn humored me by showing me how wrong I was about Hitting before learning Swinging.

Lynn was about how valuable Swinging could be. He asked me if I wanted a quick fix or the real stuff. I wanted the "Full Tour!" :oops:

Ben Hogan's Bowed Left Wrist, is dynamically formed with the left heel stepping down, leading the left hip, leading the left elbow to follow around creating the Finish Swivel ( "Lift your heels Patrick! Back and forth, back and forth cut the grass with the scythe. Drag the wet mop.") And lifting the left heel with Mid-Body Hands
loads/creates the most lovely on-plane position lagging to the top. And then.. I got it by placing my left heel down.

:golfcart2: :occasion: :super:

The Horizontal Hinge is truly a hammer! That poor little ball compressed despite 100% humidity and a falling temp. from 38 degrees to 33 degrees and a few flakes falling! My 3 wood with a stiff shaft double -accelerated to 200 yards and then peaked! My 8 degree SMT double-accelerated and peaked at 220 ! At first I was fading the ball but adjusted with a closed stance and inside attack for the soft draw. I hardly used any energy and the Pivot was very efficient and the ball exploded!

Thanks Lynn!

ICT

innercityteacher

02-11-2013 02:02 PM

The beauty and logic of the "Forward Press," is cool.

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95069)

I press forward and create my Bent Right Wrist and tension with it, a good Right Forearm Angle of Approach, a good right elbow position, and a smooth Horizontal Hinge with a connected Pivot!

Very Cool! :angel:

ICT

innercityteacher

02-11-2013 11:12 PM

another benefit of the forward press...

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95074)

...it provides a preview of the selected "hands ahead of the club" impact position and the Bent Right Wrist "frozen position" the Pivot will carry through impact. Or, if in the case of the driver,how much forward lean not to have,

:golfer2:

85 days left to the end of the school year, 50 degrees today and pretty soon to Saturday foursomes and pitchers and catchers start tomorrow! :hello2:

ICT

Daryl

02-12-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95075)

Good thought.

37 degrees here in Chicago. The real feel is more like 25.

innercityteacher

02-13-2013 11:45 AM

"Freezing" the Bent Right Wrist after the Forward Press

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 95076)

Good thought.

37 degrees here in Chicago. The real feel is more like 25.

I'm sure you all knew this but it is still way cool! :thumleft:

Can you say "knocking down the pin?" and "perfect finish?"

:yoda:

LOL

ICT

innercityteacher

02-13-2013 03:13 PM

I think I got another one right!

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95080)

I'm sure you all knew this but it is still way cool! :thumleft:

Can you say "knocking down the pin?" and "perfect finish?"

:yoda:

LOL

ICT

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Yoda
Administrator

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 10,650
Saying Goodbye To The 'Other Guy'
Originally Posted by Trigolt
Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
I have to admit, my setup routine sometimes varies from shot to shot and I don't have a routine from the time I take my club out of the bag until I complete the shot.

Bagger
Bagger,

One thing Yoda stressed with me is to use the same set-up routine for every shot - on the range and on the course. It is one part of your golf swing that takes no coordination or any physical skills, in my opinion. It's one of those things you can get right 100% of the time.

So why not get it right every time?

-The Golt
Ever wonder why that 'other guy' always does so much better?

I'm talking about your alter ego who inhabits the same physique but who hits 'second' after your first ball has sailed OB or PL (Probably Lost) or that three-footer didn't touch the hole. It's because, per 3-F-5, "most misshots are lost at Address -- by not mentally spelling out exactly the selected Stroke Variations and their technique and Feel."

The Address Routine of 3-F-5 is a Three-Step Failsafe Procedure that enables you to hit your 'second' shot first! Master each Step -- Practice Stroke, Waggle and Forward Press -- independently and then integrate the entire procedure into your Game.

Do that and the 'other guy' will soon find himself looking for work!
__________________
Yoda

I really did knock everything dead straight with that forward press, even my driver.

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :golfing_banana:

ICT

innercityteacher

02-13-2013 03:25 PM

More "way coolness!"

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95083)

Just found this while waiting for one or two parents to show out of the 80 some odd students I teach. Of course, the ones that come represent the "A" students still in my school!

Anyway, I just feel like I passed an exam!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=40550&highlight=forward+press#pos t40550

I really did knock everything dead straight with that forward press, even my driver.

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :golfing_banana:

ICT

http://youtu.be/Q3VjaCy5gck

:study: :D :king: That's what I'm talking about! Real Rap!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56161&highlight=forward+press#pos t56161

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The #1 Alignment in G.O.L.F. and at Impact Fix is the Flat Left Wrist (4-D-1;1-L-8; 2-0-B-1) or less satisfactorily, its geometric equivalent per 10-2-G.Without it, more information means only more confusion. And if the LeftWrist is Flat (4-A-1), then the Right Wrist must be Bent (4-A-2). Remember,there are no "degrees" of Flatness. The Wrist is either Flator it is not Flat. The Bent Wrist, on the other hand, has no such definitivealignment and even the slightest deviation from the Flat classificationqualifies. So, while there is only one Flat, the number of Bent positionsapproaches infinity. Bottom Line: Assuming the precision Grip of 10-2-B, ifyour Left Wrist isn't Flat or your Right Wrist isn't Bent, you're doing itwrong.

Having established these correct alignments -- 'Fixed' them in your Computer(Chapter 14) and Feel System (1-J) -- you then verify them with the FowardPress, the third procedure of the Three-Step Checkout Routine of AdjustedAddress. This procedure demands that you shift your entire Machine to theImpact position and verify six Impact alignments (A-F in 3-F-5).Having verified each of the six, you then would ideally reassume the AdjustedAddress position -- if only momentarily -- to retain its advantages, namely itsfluid position between the weightshifts and facility of Plane Line Tracing(7-9). Only then would you finally proceed into Start-Up (8-4). All this is theprocess of establishing Component Alignments and Relationships as required fora selected Ball Response (Glossary / Address Routine).

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innercityteacher

02-13-2013 03:39 PM

Extensor Action, too?

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95084)

http://youtu.be/Q3VjaCy5gck

:study: :D :king: That's what I'm talking about! Real Rap!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56161&highlight=forward+press#pos t56161

ICT

It never occured to me to think that Extensor Action is part of the Forward Press along with a preview of Both Arms Straight!

I am so psyched, though I wear boxers!

http://youtu.be/xdCrZfTkG1c

:king: :king: :king: :king: :king:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56177&highlight=forward+press#pos t56177

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Use the Golfing Machine Waggle to rehearse the Bending of your RightArm in the On Plane Right Forearm Flying Wedge Start Up. Feel the ExtensorAction of your Right Triceps and the accompanying Checkrein Action ofyour Left Arm as you move up, back and in On Plane and down, out andforward On Plane. Feel the Lag Load against the #3 PressurePoint at the Top of the Waggle. Feel its Drive through the ImpactInterval. Feel the Straightening of your Right Arm and watch itsactuation of the #3 Accumulator Roll. Watch the Clubhead Blurover the Inside-Aft Quadrant of the Ball as you execute the proper Left HandHinge Action and Rhythm. Make sure you take your Waggle to theend of the Follow-Through, the Both Arms Straight position, even for atwo-inch Putt. Through it all, maintain the Impact Alignments of yourLeft and Right Wrists and Trace the Straight Plane Line with your RightForearm and #3 Pressure Point.

innercityteacher

02-13-2013 04:01 PM

As long as we are learning how to do almost everything...

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95085)

Sheesh, I wished I had studied this list long ago!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=21128&highlight=forward+press#pos t21128

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YodasLuke
Lynn Blake Certified Master Instructor

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 1,314
beginners: get out your highlighter
These are just a few important phrases that a newbie to TGM might find interesting. I thought they could be some things to highlight for all you first time readers of the little yellow book. Understand that this is just the tip of the iceburg!:

In the preface: page VII, 1st sentence, 2nd paragraph.

Page 11: copy it and tape it to your forehead!

Page 12: 2-0-A

Page 26: 2nd to last sentence in 1st paragraph, “The Right Forearm...”

Page 37: 4th sentence of 1st paragraph, “Pivot Thrust alone...” and the first two sentences of the last paragraph.

Page 50 & 51: 1st sentence of the 2nd paragraph, “The Practice Stroke...”, the 1st sentence of the 3rd paragraph, “The Address Waggle...”, and the 1st sentence at the top of page 51, “The Forward Press...”. Also, A-F on page 51.

Page 51: 3-F-6, Execution, whole 1st paragraph.

Page 52 & 53: 3-F-7-A, B, C, and D, at least the 1st sentence.

Page 55-57: 4-A-1 through 3; 4-B-1 through 3; and 4-C-1 through 3.

Page 60: 2nd to last sentence, “That - failure to clear...”.

Page 63: 6-0, last sentence, “There is no Stroke...”.

Page 65: 6-A-4, 1st sentence

Page 66: last three sentences starting with “From the Feet...”.

Page 68: 6-B-1-D, another entire page to tape to your forehead.

Page 71: 6-B-3-0-1, it’s best just to see Yoda, or any of his faithful followers.

That will give you enough reading for now.
__________________
Yoda knows...and he taught me!

For those less fortunate, Swinging is an option

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innercityteacher

02-13-2013 04:45 PM

Here's a little triangle meditation.

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95086)

Sheesh, I wished I had studied this list long ago!

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=21128&highlight=forward+press#pos t21128

ICT

Kev, the Golf Galaxy gus have nice things and no interest to do any free measurements of anything!

Anyway....here is a blast from the past! When I forward press I straighten my right arm.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2319&page=3&highlight=forward+pre ss

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:13 PM

KevCarter
Lynn Blake Certified Associate

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,950
Better Late Than Never?
LOL

Well, since the original question in 2006 went partly unanswered, I'll jump in. I just was studying chapter 6 this morning and stumbled upon it.

No, using right forearm takeaway DOES NOT destroy the triangle. Per:

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6-A-1 THE TRIANGLE ASSEMBLY

The Power Package is basically a Triangle and this form puts it under the Law of the Triangle. The Straight Left Arm forms Side One, the Shoulders form the second Side and a line from the Right Shoulder to Hands forms the Third Side – whether the Right Arm is straight or bent.
All the answers are there for us, sometimes it just takes us a few years to find it.

Kevin
__________________

I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.

ALIGNMENT G.O.L.F.

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innercityteacher

02-17-2013 02:14 PM

A different view...

A different view, perhaps...

http://youtu.be/sCRAs-xZm4k

There is a comment in the "Hogan's Secret Book" about Mr. Hogan figuring out a lift of his left heel and a planting of his left heel would greatly aid impact and the stationary head. If you couple this observation with the old 'weight on the inside of the right foot," you get "The Right-Sided Swing." When you combine this with Lynn Blake's excellent combination of TGM explanations, you get a sublime swing motion or Hitting motion that bashes the ball with accuracy, imho like Norman and Hogan. It amazes me how TGM observations benefit "The Right Sided Swing" practitioner or any swing practitioner with observations of "tracing the baseline of the plane," "power accumulators," "delivery path," "Horizontal hinge," "Angled Hinge," "Pressure Point # 3," and of course, "The Magic of the Right Forarm," "Right Forearm Takeaway," "and "Forward Press." And, last and not least, IMPACT FIX!

These are simply my initial observations and opinions but geometry is either accurate or not and "the ball doesn't lie!"

Is this a great game and is LBG golf a great set of tools or what? :laughing9 :) :read: :golf:

Is "His -story" really a synthesis of all that the HP has taught and re-taught? :idea1: :read: :dontknow: :scratch: :idea: :newbie:

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innercityteacher

02-17-2013 04:12 PM

Impact Fix With Attitude=Right Sided Swing IMHO!

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95101)

AN OPTION FOR LIL' OLD ME! Pre-set a flat left heel with slight left left knee bend and RFAoA so right elbow is tucked to the hip (Hogan)(Daryl) (TGM) and a highish left shoulder so plenty of room and stability. Forward Press into a narrow right wrist Start-up Swivel with gusto, flat left heel and right forearm drive (right arm always under left arm) against the right side( like retuning from a lawnmower pull )with heavy Bent Wright Wrist (very narrow feeling almost like the entire backswing is a Bent Right Wrist -then a sawed-off right forearm drive of pp# 3) into a Horizontal Hinge and an abbreviated Finish Swivel. OR same set-up , Forward Press and Covering the Base Line of the Plane with gusto, followed by the mother of all right Forearm drives and an Angle Hinge of biblical proportions for the certain fade.

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: Is this a great game or what?

ICT

innercityteacher

02-17-2013 06:52 PM

Narrow right wrist takeaway = Angle Hinge?!

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95102)

Impact bag snap is incredible with a narrow right wrist take away and right arm thrust-impact bag flies straight and far into the garage door with a loud "splat," repeatedly!!:happy3: We'll see at the range tomorrow when we hit a balmy 38 degrees!

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innercityteacher

02-18-2013 05:15 PM

Weight starting left and then....

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95103)

....Forward press to lock the Bent Right Wrist, Right forearm takeaway and either the right forearm drive or left hip bump forward for a very nice Angle Hinge with very stationary head. At 41 degrees F. My PW was 125yards and straight with a little fade, 9 iron about 135-140, 4 iron was 180 ish as was the 3 hybrid and the drivers were carrying at about 220 or so with a slight fade in the shape or draw depending on how far back the ball was placed. :)

ICT

innercityteacher

02-25-2013 01:44 PM

A beautiful swing is like a beautiful mind, filled with peace and confidence!

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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 95106)

Thanks to LBG, and the Impact Fix, Manipulated Hands Swing, I had the best day of Swinging yesterday, actually 4 barrell I think! ;)
As Lynn shared with me years ago, I start my back swing from the tiniest Impact Fix and Start-up Swivel from THE FEELING OF LIFTING MY LEFT HEEL SLIGHTLY SO I HAVE ONLY A SLIGHT LEFT KNEE BEND. Because my left leg is shorter than my right by almost 2 inches, I start with weight left and stay there (this is for me an accommodation Impact Fix for my disability). So, I Start-up Swivel to throw my arms up and as the arms go up, I separate my left knee slightly (which I read about other famous players doing) and the club whips down under my Stationary Head with a Horizontal Hinge! :angel: Now, I have a real sense of right forearm drive after I start the left knee forward. Is that "4 Barell?" Well, if it isn't it sure works well!

At 46 degrees all shots are straight and penetrating with misses from moving causing slight fades! I can see impact with a nice light "click." PW 125-130, 9 iron between 135-140, 3 wood a penetrating 220 with roll on a hard ground bouncing at 210 and the driver rolls out a little past 230.

Thanks to Lynn's wonderful explanations of TGM, I can read any golf instruction and understand the strengths and weaknesses for me of the system, make adjustments to my physical limits, and strike the ball with confidence! Hopefully turning in scores in 3 weeks looking to get the HCP down to from 11 to a 2 this year!

:hello2: :hello2: :hello2:

Thanks LBG and Lynn!

ICT

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