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JTillery 05-17-2011 05:42 PM

Yep, the ole hump it and get underplane is nothing to envy. You wont see many big time verticals and humps on the pga tour (aside from Bubba).

CG,
Im not trying to gear tiger up for a remax, just saying you wont ever see him able to stand there calmly and swing his arms. It would be great if he could, and keep his head level, no dip and no jump and I GUARANTEE you he can do all of this over and over and over again on the range........but I've never seen it once when it mattered.


But more importantly and again, you can't use a stack and tiltish pivot (pivot, not arm swing) AND lean the shaft a bunch and expect to hit drivers anywhere other than off the volunteers head in the right woods.

gmbtempe 05-17-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JTillery (Post 84713)


But more importantly and again, you can't use a stack and tiltish pivot (pivot, not arm swing) AND lean the shaft a bunch and expect to hit drivers anywhere other than off the volunteers head in the right woods.

Why?

Can explain the mechanics that this pivot would have on the golf swing. I look at say Sergio and I see a very centered (stacked or whatever its called) and it seems to work well.

JTillery 05-17-2011 09:26 PM

GMBTEMPE,

check out their pivots against each other....sergios works w lean and tigers wont, check it out and you'll see why

O.B.Left 05-19-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JTillery (Post 84713)
It would be great if he could, and keep his head level, no dip and no jump and I GUARANTEE you he can do all of this over and over and over again on the range........but I've never seen it once when it mattered.


Agreed. Ive seen these swings on the range too and the over acceleration on the course. Which "he really doesnt need to do" ..........so said a man next to me at the Open last year at St Andrews.

When you watched Hogan practice , I bet you saw the same action he employed on the course. The only swing of his that I have seen where he was verging on over acceleration was the one from the Power Golf demo at Augusta where he leans back and launches it like like a Remax guy. Fell backwards and hit it high and long. He swung " out of his shoes" but it was a side show, only.

When Faldo was summoned to Shady Oaks (after Tiger's first win at Augusta) , Hogan who had heard of Nick's attempt to add length to his drive (against the onslaught of youth) offered this advice ..........IIRC ........"its not how far down the fairway you are but what side of the fairway you are on that matters". To my mind good advice then for Nick and good advice now for Tiger.

NCHamr 05-19-2011 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 84778)
Agreed. Ive seen these swings on the range too and the over acceleration on the course. Which "he really doesnt need to do" ..........so said a man next to me at the Open last year at St Andrews.

When you watched Hogan practice , I bet you saw the same action he employed on the course. The only swing of his that I have seen where he was verging on over acceleration was the one from the Power Golf demo at Augusta where he leans back and launches it like like a Remax guy. Fell backwards and hit it high and long. He swung " out of his shoes" but it was a side show, only.

When Faldo was summoned to Shady Oaks (after Tiger's first win at Augusta) , Hogan who had heard of Nick's attempt to add length to his drive (against the onslaught of youth) offered this advice ..........IIRC ........"its not how far down the fairway you are but what side of the fairway you are on that matters". To my mind good advice then for Nick and good advice now for Tiger.

If only I was on the side of the fairway that I aimed for :eyes:

JTillery 05-20-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JTillery (Post 84719)
GMBTEMPE,

check out their pivots against each other....sergios works w lean and tigers wont, check it out and you'll see why

The old sergio that is. After watching some of the colonial, there are some changes being made to el ninos pivot.


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