Thanks OB! I cannot do 4 Barrel and would not really want to as I am quite happy with other options.

The super simple 3 Barrell hitting and swinging can both be attractive depending on my daily flexibility.

Active back elbow = hitting. Check Bumping the front hip or driving the back hip laterally or turning the hips = swinging. Check.

I will check out 12-1/2/5. Check!

Thanks! Patrick