Ok, this may relate to the this topic, maybe not but for me its a clubface control closing issue,

The last few days I have been working on getting my left shoulder working more rotationally than linear on the downswing, same thing for the right shoulder, in effect I need more roundhousing and less tilt. This is pulling the right elbow in and then I just rotate low and left, my image is like Hogan.

It feels over the top and off plane....but its not.

I am now just off the turned shoulder plane all the way down and not under plane at all. The shot direction is a straight ball or slight pull fade.

Now also what was interesting to control the shot pattern all I was doing was rotating my stance changing the plane line in relation to the ball target line, for a draw form I set up square, for a straight shot slightly open and for a cut really open.

It worked like I could never imagine, yet one thing was consistent was the way I moved the right left-right shoulder through the ball with no face manipulation.

I assume this is the swinging left that is talked about so much lately but is it really swinging left or just rotating the plane line?