This week, I put salt in the Water Softener. My wife praised me. :salut:

Well at least you got plenty of time to rest since you turned in your holster and spurs at the finance deal . . . NOPE!!!

NICE MAN!!!!

Man that'd be a heck of a slogan if I decide to pursue a career as a professional Wrassler . . . Thanks man!

Congrats Yoda. Looking forward to seeing it some time soon. Guess you wont have to hide that golf car tire in the shrubbery anymore.

Gmb.

I totally agree with Buckets assessment. Totally.

Are you a hitter by chance? Do you dabble in the art of Active Thrust? Just checking. Here is what Im thinking too:

-a little tiny bit outside going back, probably 'cuzz the right arm isnt folding at first. An angled hinge in start up which is good if you're a hitter type. Im wondering if this is all due to an old habit of pushing the club away with the left side? Its indicated given these symptoms, just checking. If so research the RFFT. Also you right arm may be stiff or fully extended at Address. A RFFT blockage. The Right Arm Fans and Bends.
-some left wrist rolling to the inside. Leading me to think that your mental picture is maybe left side centric. See 6-B-3-0-1 first paragraph. Read and re read. If you are a hitter, or a swinger even it will do much to simplify your perception of the backswing by making it a right sided thing. (Without the left sided, standard wrist action stuff that is oh so 2008.) The problem with non aligned rolling is that it can go anywhere but most likely inside which will disturb the plane of the clubshaft and the plane of the left wrist cock (too much around and under with a flattening out of the hand and not enough UP in the left hand, hammering)
-as Buck says a literally flat left wrist instead of a geometrically flat wrist to Top. Practice the Hammer, vertical left hand cocking via a bending right elbow.
-an immediate move to a slightly steeper plane in startdown. Probably due to a premature firing of #1. An early Release. Hit the search function for "startdown waggles" as a cure. This is a must for a pull. Two for every pull on the range as punishment. Do them quickly and then hit a shot without pausing to think and watch it go straight! No guff this is the cure to a pull. It is all about the sequence of accelerating components. You have to save the firing of #1 for Release, dont fire it off in Startdown. "Endless belt". "Punch Elbow". "Hip Slide", "Delayed Turn".
-right wrist flattening out early. Its extremely bent at Top then flat at Impact. Homer wanted us to extend our right arms but with the right wrist frozen in its Impact Fix degree of bend until both arms straight. "Golfs unique move".
-a little vertical hinging through the ball. Perhaps some "steering" an attempt to ward off the clubface closing or the left hand bending. Trade the bending left , flattening right for a bent right , flat left but ROLLING.
-left arm could maybe use some "Extensor Action" so it doesnt go limp too early.

Hope I didnt add to the confusion or make it sound overly critical. I like your action it looks very strong and athletic. I love the way you stop at Top. If you arent hitting you're a strong candidate Id say. If not then I'd still add some right side awareness. Its the old left side centric stuff that gave me a lot of those particular problems anyways. Thats where Im coming from, literally.

Regards
Ob

You guys really have a good eye for golf stroke details. And the skills to put them in context too, it seems. I am impressed.

:pray:

I broke this up, hope you dont mind.

This is always hard for me, do I feel like there is a pulling of my right side, not really. Do I feel like I am trying to thrust the right arm, no. I just get to the top and feel like I am trying to propel the ball in the direction I want. No different then when I hit a baseball or a hockey puck.

Definitely, when I try active thrust hitting and its on there really is no better feeling, it tends to work well for the short irons and go haywire for the longer ones.

This summer I took two lessons from GSEM Greg Smith in Mesa AZ. We worked on the same thing really, not pushing away with the left side which was pushing my head and body, a sway type move, away from the target. It needed to be more centered with a RFT to the top. So this problem you mention was identified by other eyes.

I have to check this out, what your saying I have never considered.

Hammer, I might need to study that more.

I can see it in all my swings. All I can say is I work at it to no end. When I started playing I had a huge OTT move, could hit it a ton but sprayed it everywhere, mostly right, I guess as time has gone on this position was one I found that worked a little.

Will dO!

I definitely understand that, sequencing I mean, I just need to make a game plan to get it down.

Looking at what Daryl wrote I got the impression the bent wrist to a flatting position was my minds way of correcting the shut face, fix the shut face would help keeping it bent?

Ok

ok. When I do hit my primary thought is the right arm is just holding the left, the drill people mention is hold the arm sleeve of an jacket, that the left is the "check reign". That works well for me when I hit but I dont think about that unless I am consciously trying to hit the ball.

Anyone that takes the time to help me I am super appreciative. This site has been great to me, thanks.:happy3:

Couple things after looking at some pictures.

I see what you guys are saying, when you look at my wrists at the top, my left wrist is very flat and the right wrist has a lot of bend in it. To bad I can just find a way to get that to impact like that?

I notice that Hogan, and Sergio are very similar (wow, did I just do that to myself?)






Both of these guys have a double shift to the elbow plane? Is this something that is a result, or a need of such a flat wrist, opposed to Couples?

Here are some swings at lunch.

Its weird, the roll of the hands trying to get the forearm in the correct position at the top is hard.

I see the Couples photo with the bent left wrist at the top, I have no clue how to get to that position.

Here is the rolling forearm takeaway shots...blurry on the 420 frames, that just does not work good on this camera, maybe my setups.

DTL - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mNZiRCmJHE
FO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh6laYQYvKE

Here is a video where I use a right arm thrust action

DTL - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPuEc3uAzR8

In all the left arm is not pushing away as much as previously, I think this is a good thing?

One comment, my buddies who held the camera commented, when I use a hitting right arm action they said the sound is just different, more of a thud into the ground. I guess the compression may be better.

I couldn't agree more!