Could you go further to explain finish swivel w/ the Taly? Or better what you mean by what it should really feel like? Or better yet what your feel is? I have the Taly, I want to make sure Im not missing something.

I work on feeling the left wrist move to level while rolling then uncocking with the left wrist staying flat, never passing the red ball of the Taly. I try to feel the handle of the grip pointing at the gutter when my right forearm is parallel to the ground, P8, to me that is the key to what I am trying to accomplish, getting the shaft to go back up the plane line. Can't do it without a swivel of the flat left wrist.

When done properly, I hit wedge about 10 yards further, higher, and straighter than my pre-swivel, slappy swing. Maintain the flying wedges. STRUCTURE.

Man, trying to explain my feels, I'm afraid I may have butchered this. A little help from the more experienced? :salut:

Thanks,
Kevin

dolly pardon? "gutter" and P8". I w/ you on the shaft going back up plane w/ FLW, but the other terms Im lost.

The gutter is the plane line. Picture a roof as the plane, it's gutter is the plane line.

P8 is just right forearm parallel to the ground.
P8 is a position, we don't teach positions, we teach alignments, but I wanted you to get the picture of the shaft getting back up the plane after follow through and into the finish.

Sorry sasquatch_mn, I get a little too excited for typing. Much easier to explain and show one on one than with text.

Kevin

thanks for elaborating...makes sense. Lately, I felt closer than I have been to getting total motion w/ FLW. However, after repeated and i stress the repeated failure, I never get too excited. This feeling as of late is different than before. I could NEVER fade the ball w/out making and exaggerated chicken wing crappy attempt that went left to right but weak as heck.

Go deep!
 

Hey Sasquatch,

I have a short cut to a well executed swivel! Learn to go to both arms straight. Without what I call a "deep impact" the finished swivel is a bridge to nowhere! Yoda goes through this progression with his Colin Neeman lesson series. chip...pitch...punch...punch w/swivel. If I fail to swivel back up on plane it is usually because I ran out of right arm because of my right elbow position and or an off-plane right shoulder. Check Trevino's right shoulder at impact. Hope that is helpful. The finish swivel is one of the sweetest feelings is golf!

i just watched this...amazing by the way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eqho...om=PL&index=53

So Travino's right shoulder at impact is what your referring and his is example Im looking to emulate? I notice big dip thru impact is that how he is getting club to stay angled to hit in order to fade? Running out of right arm would look like what in comparison or would it be more vertical?

Start there
 

Trevino's "dip" is instructive. Why not start your head at the impact postion? We "bob" largely because the ball is waaaay DOWN there! I'm not sure what you are asking about hinging. Trevino used #1Acc actively which naturally produces an angled hinge. The right shoulder is part of both the pivot as well as the power package...and therefore has more to do with clubhead matters.

Help! My swing
 

Looking for some help been struggling big. I wasnt sure where to post this so I added it to previous thread I had questions...

Heres down line and face from my latest effort. Obvious problem from my untrained eye is take away pulling club inside. I cant seem to get that right forearm takeaway down. Too flat and over the top?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjr-9Jrhsko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZQPCfdfKfs

Sasquatch, right forearm goes up. Look at Mcdonald exercises here at LBG. Try right forearm pickup while keeping the shoulders quiet. You need more armswing. I had the same issue, once I learned the right forearm takeaway and hand controlled pivot, it was amazing how different the backswing becomes.