Again, thanks, Yoda!

I always get slightly euphoric when another crucial subtlety of the golf swing is revealed to me - since coming onboard here that's been happening a lot. :happy3:

Is this feel or real?
 

Yoda

In regard to a swingers delayed hip turn in startdown, do the hips ever get actively spun? Or do they just react as the hands would dictate or as the power package overtakes the pivot? The person throwing a baseball turns his hips but not actively for instance, it just sort of happens. Hand to pivot throw. As opposed to the very popular golfers early hip spin in transition, mostly before the weight gets left.

I am currently having great success just sliding with a delayed turn and thats about it. Maybe a little left leg straightening to ward off my saggy left knee tendancy. No active hip spinning, delayed or otherwise anymore. They do turn towards the target but not by me actively anyways. Everything looks the same or better even, not a hip stall or anything, dont want to hurt myself. More balance, no spinning out on the left foot.

Straightening the knee is going to allow the hip to turn more . . . In both directions (backstroke and downstroke).

Hands Controlled Pivot
 

Aye O.B., that’s a great example. :)

When kids throw a ball, the boys at a young age taught their pivot to comply with their hands. Hand Control Pivot. They taught their pivots to support and power their harms and comply with the path of their hands. Girls, on the other hand, throw like girls because they haven’t trained their pivots to power or comply. They either use a non-pivot stroke (typical girl’s baseball overhand toss) or if they use a pivot, then the ball fly’s off in an unintended/unpredictable direction. Pivot Controlled Hands means that the path of the hands will be controlled and/or distrupted by the pivot.

I don’t know how it’s done in the “North Country” but in the Lower 50 (a Banff, Canadian term), men use an active pivot when throwing a baseball. The Pivot leads the throw. The harder you want to throw, then the harder you pivot. It’s so automatic, we don’t think about it (unless you’re a Cubs pitcher, then you stop thinking about it just before a big game). :laughing9



So, a great Zone 2 can only perform as well as Zone 1, but you need a great Zone 3 to train Zone 1. Is that the Chicken and the Egg? No.... Zone 2&3 are trained by using Basic Motion Drills. Zone 1 is introduced in Aquired Motion to begin training the Pivot. Total Motion drills = training at full Pressure on the pressure points in the 4,1,2,3. In basic motion, one must learn and use extensor action. Aquired motion is great for power package training. Total motion is great for acceleration training.

(the pivot keeps on pivoting and isn't overtaken until after both arms straight)

People have a habit of swinging harder or faster, using effort. But, you can’t push a car faster than you can run. Your goal is to use the Pivot in such a way that the #3 Pressure Point pressure stays the same all of the way through the ball and further. Distance is gained by putting more pressure on #4,1,2/3. More precise alignments when moving 80% to stay within yourself is the path to greater distance.

Nice one. As a youngster I used to have a saggy left knee (lots of leg drive) and try to spin the hips hard to keep them ahead of the hands to ward off a hook.

The legs and knees just anchor the swing now and have no action (although I personally try to throw a little left knee straightening in but not to fully straight. The hips have an action for some but do they ever actively spin through the shot? Is instant hip acceleration a slide in transition with a delayed hip turn?

If Im doing startdown waggles and hold the right hip back as I bump left and then go a little bit further in Downstroke with my only on my right shoulder the hips turn or are maybe turned.

Perhaps this is just a feel and not a real. Certainly better than spinning out.

See ya.

I'd say you want to slide your hips the amount that allows you to stay on the selected plane. That being said . . . not sure there's any research on this or whatever but imagine you got one of them surgical tubing deals stuck up in a door frame. You can pull that thing LOTS easier if you go forward with your hips and pull down with your arms versus spinning your hips and your shoulders.

Turn the Axis . . . Spin the Flywheel
 

See this morning's Post #8 here: http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...3672#post63672.

Study 2-K.

:salut:

Thanks Daryl

I love your Alberta references. Banff and Jasper are a relatively unknown heaven on earth kind of places. Hope you enjoyed them.

As for hands to pivot vs pivot to hands ..................Ill be forever trying to sort them out. For now I just clear my right hip and then let my right arm kinda "Indian chief how" my way to top.

Hey now, for sure the pivot leads, but we golfers tend to over do it a bit. Dont you think. If a Sox hitter is getting killed by a Cubs pitcher does he go back to the dugout and say "what a pivot turn on that guy" or "what an arm on that guy"? If its the latter does that mean the guy didnt turn his body or pivot?

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First: The Northern Rockies are overwhelming and majestic. The Canadians have done and continue to do an outstanding job maintaining the parks and the tourist infrastructure. Combined, they create a great experience to be repeated. :salut:

Back to Golf: Golfers in the 70's and 80's over exaggerated with their driving knees, legs and hips I think. The alignment of the pivot while in motion to guide the hands is crucial.

Releasing the Accumulators causes a rate of change of velocity (acceleration)of the clubhead, and occurs during the downstroke and release sequence. The rate of Acceleration (how much is the rate of change in velocity) is determined by the Pivot (Increase the Mass; how much pressure is on the pressure points). With Zero Pivot you can have acceleration but you can only increase its rate by just a little.


When you're at a Cubs game in chicago, it's common to hear one Fan say to another, "man, he has good velocity but that goofy Pitcher better adjust his rate of acceleration!", then the other Fan says "you're stupid; his rate of acceleration was ok, but his hand release was bad!". Then a fight begins. :laughing9


Daryleze:

Hands Controlled Pivot = Pivot trained by the hands so that the pivot will will comply with Hand Motion and Action. Alignments and Force.

Pivot Controlled Hands = Hands and Arms are adjusted to compensate for Pivot Motion and Action. Alignments and Force.

All Non-Pivot Strokes are Hands Controlled Pivot. If you can't perform a Basic Stroke, "forgetaboutit".