Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59808)

Yoda - this issue made me think of another question, which I have now added.

If a golfer has flexible wrists, and he can bend his right wrist back to 90 degrees at the end-backswing position so that he can get his right forearm angled closer to 90 degrees relative to the clubshaft at the end-backswing position, is that a disadvantage?

. . . I was wondering whether it is disadvantageous to allow the right wrist to bend back fully by the end of the backswing - thereby altering the angular relationship between the right forearm and the left arm flying wedge?

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59807)

You write-: "I used to turn the shoulders and extend both arms , long and low, with the triangle maintained."

When you state "extend both arms" I think that it correctly describes the mental picture that many golfers have in their mind when they think of the one piece takeaway. However, as Yoda accurately demonstrated in his DVD lesson, the right forearm at address must be held in a certain manner with respect to the left arm, so that the right elbow can start to fold and the right forearm can start to fan (as if performing a right clap hand action) very soon after the right forearm takeaway commences. The main purpose of the takeaway is to simply carry one's hands (and clubshaft) to the "correct" end-backswing position where the left arm flying wedge and right arm flying wedge are correctly aligned (and the entire power package assembly is correctly loaded).

Standing stiffly with extended arms leads to all sorts of incorrect backswing actions - like this frequently performed one piece takeaway action that leads to reverse pivoting.



Jeff.

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59814)

Ed

Jeff - the other big key in my view, at least for a swingers RFT is that the elbows stay the same distance apart and point down. This helps ensure the turn is on plane during RFT, and that the loading action on PP#3 is rotated "on line". (wheel rim)

I was wondering - if the right upper limb (via the right clap hand action and bending, but level, right wrist) keeps the clubshaft on-plane throughout the backswing, then essentially the left hand's movement in space is dictated by movement of the right hand in space. Then if the left hand's movement in space is already dictated by the right hand - and the left arm is always kept straight and the left wrist is always kept flat - then wouldn't the left arm/elbow's movement automatically occur in a certain way without having to worry about it? In other words, I am presuming that the timing of left arm/forearm clockwise rotation and left wrist upcocking would occur automatically - if the right upper limb moves correctly.

Jeff.

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59816)

Yoda - you wrote-: "Any undue Bend (Horizontal Motion) in the Right Wrist will produce a corresponding Arch in the Left."

I can understand that situation existing at impact - when the right forearm is "fixedly" on-plane any excessive right wrist bend will produce an arched left wrist.

However, what about the top of the backswing? If the left wrist remains flat throughout the entire backswing, then wouldn't small variations in the degree of right wrist bend at the top of the backswing simply cause small variations in angling of the right forearm (relative to the left arm flying wedge) and small variations in the position of the right elbow. Would that be consequential in terms of swing mechanics?

Jeff.

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59769)

If a golfer has the flexibility to get to that position, then he should be in the perfect end-backswing position (for a swinger).

What do you think of my "method" of executing/teaching a takeaway action?