From the pictures and videos I have seen, it looks like Hogan uses a Snap Release. Is it Automatic or non-Automatic? I can't tell. Does anyone have any advice on what to look for to see if someone is using an Auto or non-Auto Release Type? If I were to hazard a guess, it would be an Auto Snap Release, just because it is very hard to control clubface motion manually when one has such a late Release Point.

I can assure you that Hogan did not use a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure (I'm assuming that's what you meant when you said "pivot controlled-stroke").

Regarding the shoulder turn takeaway, notice in all Hogan swing videos, how absolutely stationary his head remains on the backswing (and downswing). There is no swaying of the head behind the ball- something you often see from people who employs a Shoulder Turn Takeaway. Also notice the very slight "left-side sag" look when Hogan is at the Top. This is a common characteristic from golfers who employ a Right Forearm Pickup procedure and keeping an absolutely Stationary Head.

That's all I've got to say for now! :wink:

I think I agree with you there...well as far as I know- it's still a guess basically for me too.

How can you be so sure he doesn't use a shoulder turn takeaway? I think he does.

It is possible to use a shoulder turn takeaway and have a Hands Controlled Pivot procedure. That's all I'm going to say about that, as there are already many posts on this subject.

If you read my post again, you will notice that I said catorgorically that Hogan uses a Hands Controlled Pivot procedure. I did not draw any conclusions in the type of takeaway he uses. However, I did give a few logical reasons and comments, which may help you make up your mind.

Please re-read my previous post :o

OK you're right TONG.

My bad...

Still get confused with PCH and HCP...

Pivot-powered hand control is a much better term IMO...to distinguish the three seperately.

I still think he uses a shoulder-turn takeaway tho.

BTW I understand that stance width changes axis tilt...

But what exactly does changing stance line do?

I have a few ideas:

-open/closed = shortens/lengthens swing
-open steepens the plane angle while closed makes it more flat

Anyone?

Stance Line Fall-Out
 

Yes Open/closed = Shortens/lengthens swing.

Open Stance -- Automatically restricts Backstroke Turn but allows a free Follow-Through (Delayed Pivot 10-12-C).

Closed Stance -- Automatically produces Free Backstroke Turn but restricts the Follow-Through (Short Pivot 10-12-B).


No Open steepens the Plane Angle while Closed makes it more flat.

Stance Line is independent of Plane Angle. And vice versa.

For the record.....I now think that Hogan DID use a STT.

QUESTION 1: What about Shoulder Line?

If I was to open my toe line to restrict swing length.....and still wanted a straight ball flight....

Toes/hips open and shoulders parallel to target line, right?
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QUESTION 2: Possible to have a Flip Release and Snap Release at once? i.e. it seems to me that Flip Release covers more of the "how" the club is released, not the "when" of Snap, Sweep, etc.

Whatcha got Yoda? or anyone.