Originally Posted by david sandridge (Post 80500)

The McHatton Doyle west coast part of the TGM tree certainly believes in extensor action. Yoda's post #21 stating that the arms "must swing freely from the shoulders" would please Greg a lot. Greg asks his students to let the arms hang freely at address. Then he grabs your hands and lifts them up. If your head and thorax come up he points out that your arms were not hanging freely. If you argue he will ask "weren't you looking at the ground at address, then where are you looking now"?. With relaxed arms the instructor lifting them should not cause you to come up. Sometimes students don't "get it". As much as Lynn stresses MacDonald's exercises their importance it took me awhile to "get it". It is very difficult to express golf instruction in english words that correctly transmit meaning. That is why we have all of these discussion day after day, year after year with each of us looking for an "a ha" moment. Then we hope to take these words, carry them to the range and have another "a ha" moment. Then more importantly find that same feeling out on the course. Perhaps relaxed arm,s ie power package feels "heavy", "hanging".

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80535)

Your difficulty using EA with Float Loading because of its subsequent disruption of CF is not a CF problem. Its because EA freezes the Right Wrist while Float Loading cocks both Wrists (Left and Right) during the Downstroke when the Right Elbow is Cocked at or before "Top". So, your frozen right wrist was the culprit.

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80540)

Thanks man. Hey are you snowed in Chicago? We have hardly any snow up here in Toronto maybe an inch on the ground in my backyard..... but we have this weird lake effect thing that protects us while Buffalo gets hammered... quite often, well almost every storm.

Originally Posted by airair (Post 80536)

I probably don't belong in this discussion, but I have some experience with a lagging takeway from adjusted address - it's just like dragging the dry pitbull /wet mop the wrong way - if that's a comment worth mentioning?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejgoFG_iIyA

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 80543)

BTW, I just booked my air fare to see Lynn April 17th - 21st. :dance:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80539)

What a great post . Thanks David.

I love your bit about the freedom of movement at the arm shoulder connection. That is a must in my book as without it the Pivot and the Arms would tend to travel in the same direction! Most likely in the direction of the Shoulders.

See Force Vectors 2-N-1 if any of you guys are confused by all of this. The Arms and Shoulders do not travel in the same direction in Startup!

How does Mr McHatton employ Extensor Action? Does he turn it on or dial it up after the Lagging Takeaway?

Regards

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 80546)

I tried a Standard Address with stiff Flying Wedges with loose wrists trying to feel Mr. Hogan's "banded" arms without banding the arms. Pivot-Pivot when I felt my wrists really stretch.

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80404)

EA occurs automatically when applying the RFT. GM doesn't use the RFT (GM = LCT) and since he uses the Elbow Plane, then .......

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 80543)

I'm going to keep my posts shorter now and less vapid.

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80549)

Why less Vapid?

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80549)

Why less Vapid?

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 80552)

And I realize that Power and Precision need each other so I need to be more precise and less vapid!

I am still feeling guilty for a "vapid" remark I directed at OB or you, Daryl , almost 800 posts ago so I am engaging in a little self-flaggelation.


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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80555)

I love blobman. I do.

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 80557)

And she loves you, O.B.

Now . . .

Nighty night!

:laughing9

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80558)

Blobman is a she?

What the duce?

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 80559)

Shhh . . .

Her brother told me!

:confused1

:laughing9

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80554)

Dont risk going blind dude , I dont even remember your remarks directed at me.

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 80548)

So EA is "baked-in" to RFT! OK, makes sense.

Thanks, Daryl! :)


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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80560)

Fill your Hands Ned Pepper!

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80564)

Obviously, you got it.

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 80565)

You would challenge Yoda?

En garde!

Originally Posted by miji (Post 82322)

I think "no up" means no reason to elevate beyond TSP. I think Jack is "across" (w/flying rt elbow), not "up". McHatton also suggests that we create a very long "club" at impact...one that begins at the left foot and ends with the clubhead (he holds the club perpendicular to the ground directly above his head). A swing without EA which culminates in one fully loaded, very long primary lever? I think the image of building the long club provides freedom of movement yet incorporates many important alignments.

Originally Posted by miji (Post 82322)

I think "no up" means no reason to elevate beyond TSP. I think Jack is "across" (w/flying rt elbow), not "up". McHatton also suggests that we create a very long "club" at impact...one that begins at the left foot and ends with the clubhead (he holds the club perpendicular to the ground directly above his head). A swing without EA which culminates in one fully loaded, very long primary lever? I think the image of building the long club provides freedom of movement yet incorporates many important alignments.