Sure! By head chase . . . I mean your head is moving FORWARD and UP . . . You should get something that stick on your head like a door frame, wall, or a friend or something that holds a shaft on your head . . . . make some easy swings or pivot motions so you get the feeling of your hips going forward and turning without your head moving off the wall/reference pt. That should help you get the trajectory up. It's more of a hip moving forward and turning thing rather than your upperbody moving forward. That will cause you to hit it low and the path to work left quicker on the follow through. Have a look at the pics below . . . Palmer and Trevino low ball . . . Hogan is more the look I prefer anyway . . . but it's all in how you put the components together.






Note how your hips have not moved as much forward and continued to turn. Feel like you are really using the ground more. NOTE: Tiger ain't the one to look at here he's a achieved the look by his head move BACK NOT HIS HIPS GOING FORWARD.

Follow thru comparison . . . .

LOW BALLERZ . . . .Note the hips and knees and where the hips are in relationship to the the head . . . knees still "bent" (or Achored in TGM terms) hips back to in line with the head.

I may be wrong but I think U should go "harder and farther" down plane into finish. As I said I can be wrong.

The Bear

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Note how much your head has come up reference the fence. Hips back and head coming up . . . feel like you are using the ground hips forward knees stretching out and feel like you are going to look UNDERNEATH the ball for you. This could be a risky thing to type out here but . . . Feel like you are clinching your buttcheeks together as you use the ground to push off and up . . .

Have a look at the amount of hip turn you have vs. Hogan at similar spots in the follow thru . . notice how much more stretch out Hogan's right Knee is vs. Palmer . . the hips pressing forward and continuing to turn stretch out the right leg . . . Palmer pretty much upper body hitter . . . OX LIKE STRENGTH . . . Hogan made this move on a busted up set of legs . . . Us the ground AS LONNNNNNNNNG AS YOU CAN.

HIGH BALLER . . .


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See the pics on your pivot vs. hogan . . . the more you can continue to press the ground and not have the range of motion in your hips stall . . . the more you can keep the face from turning over . . . . and it will keep your arms/clubhead path from moving left and allow you to hit down more. . . That will allow you to hit your startlines better and not hit the pulleeez. The face is pulling that ball left and the path being left of that face is putting the cut spin on it . . . which is fine but you're just gonna hit lowish fades. Keep the pressure on that pivot and the ground and the rotation of the face will slow down and your path won't work back up and in as fast . . . U do that part nice you just need to do it later via the pivot/hip motion.

Look how nice this is . . . . dude you got some skillz . . .



LOTS OF NICE THINGS GOING ON HERE . . .

LOOK AT YOUR EXIT . . . . niiiiiiiice . . . but Hogan's hips are still still going . . . compare your right knees and the right heel . . . your knee is gonna be more saggy and foot popped up because your butt and hips are back. Arms swing is nice though man. Beautiful stuff . . . use the ground some more longer.

Thanks heaps for the replies.

I'll probably have some additional questions tomorrow (as I'll be indoors due to the persistent heavy rain) when I read the posts in more detail. However, I thought I would make a quick comment regarding setup alignments. It could just be the camera angles (in reference to the DTL view in this video), but to me it appears that my feet are closed and my shoulders are open. Am I imagining things or should I get back to the basics and practice my setup alignments?

NOt say you can set up any ole way you want to . . . but I'd say set up is more of a preference in way or if you want to be systmatic about it there are certainly ways to alter your set up depending on the intended shot. . . . . That being said with regards to your set up . . . no glaring issues. IMO it's deeper hand path, center the head and keep it centered . . . get your pivot (hips) working more effectively.

You can take my flying wedges, but it will be from my cold dead hands
 

Bucket, what about the Arm Set of TGM? It was the first thing Yoda worked on with me. If Im not mistaken it's what Brian Gay credits his recent success to. Hogan did it.

The level left wrist, the on plane right arm. Its the first thing I check when things are off. Its often the thing that seems to set things right. Id rather quit the game than go back to low hands!

Sure . . . if he wants to do that . . . certainly a valid procedure. He had just mentioned alignment of feet and shoulders . . . heck you got dudes lining up all over the place winning majors. That dingdong dude that doesn't have any endorsements Ryan Moore aims 40 degrees left of his target and can draw it or cut it to it. In my opinion that is not where I'd start with this dude. He maintains his wedges nicely IMO. For him I like handpath and hip motion. But you could certainly adjust set up to preference or shot.

K, I do respect your analysis, honestly, always have, but I'd put money on Drew or Yoda getting that Left Wrist Level at Address. And achieved by adjusting the Right Arm Flying Wedge as opposed to the left hand or something. It isnt a popular address position I agree. But almost every good golfer gets there at Impact so why not start that way at Address? No change to your Swing Radius required. Plus there's some magic there, in my opinion.

Ive spent a few days with Lynn , not sure how many now, 10, 12? I dunno, anyways we worked on the Level Left Wrist day one........it took me most of the morning to get it right. After that we broke for lunch to celebrate it was that hard. But Lynn told me "that Level Left Wrist alone will see you accomplish your goals in golf". I was a bit taken aback by his statement to tell you the truth. But, he was right.

And so I feel compelled to share the story and the Level Left Wrist. Hogan's pistol shoot'n deal. Although some guys dont do it and might even have good reason. You have options, lots of them. But Im not going to change that one.

Are you referring to the uncocking of the wrists slightly at address? I experimented briefly with that, but I couldn't hit anything decently. Perhaps I was executing it incorrectly.

OK, I have uploaded more swing videos. Am I on the right track with the hip movements?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqjPfbKt4jA

Yes in a way. The Left Wrist ideally cocks and uncocks on plane. Its range of motion goes from Fully cocked to fully uncocked. This is a major source of power for the Swinger, the so called Power Accumulator #2 with its associated Pressure Point #2. Most every good golfer makes contact with Left Wrist in a Level position but on its way to Fully Uncocked.........there a little mustard saved for the ball. Most every good golfer makes contact with the Right Arm on the Plane of the clubshaft. And so Homer reasoned it would be easier , more efficient to simply start from a similar position at Address. The left wrist level, the right arm on the same plane as the shaft. Research "the Flying Wedges".

TGM is a catalogue of swing components, trillions of them, there is no one way thought Homer but if there is a tell tale sign of a TGM practitioner this "ARm Set" at Address would be it.

It is awkward at first, with Lynns guidance it took me a few hours before I stopped reverting to low hands. But when you get it, it'll make a difference. The secret to setting the Left Wrist at Level is to adjust it with the Right Forearm Flying Wedge.

Its not a common look at Address , its awkward at first but Hogan , Knudson , Moe Norman and others did it. Ill never go back. In the course of a lesson with Lynn he'll touch on this early , maybe even first thing.

The Flying Wedges are structure plane and simple. Like a wall stands at 90 degrees to a floor in the ideal. The Right Forearm Flying Wedge whether you're Hitting or Swinging is a mechanical alignment that will obliterate the ball. Interestingly , if you grab a club try to bend the shaft with the head buried in the ground ............you will naturally adopt this alignment in your effort. Like the wall being at right angles to the floor , its just the way things are. Its not a golf law its a universal law.

MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT!!!! Look at how much more stretch out your right leg is . . . look at your head . . . how much more axis tilt you have . . . beautiful . . . look how much better your foot work is . . .

YOU GOT SOME TALENT!!! Do it more . . . just make sure that your head doesn't start moving back to make the move . . . do it by your hips going forward up and turning . . . VERY NICE!!!

This was the second to the last swing I think . . . you kinda faked it on the last one . . . but this one was sweet!

Check the foot work here . . . sooooooo much better . . . exit still beautiful right on plane. Really like it!

Thanks for the replies (again), O.B and Bucket. I greatly appreciate the help.

Is my head OK at the moment? You noticed in the last couple of swings that the extension of my legs/hips was not as good as in the first few swings. At the moment I just feel like I am pushing/springing up with my legs. Is there anything else that could help?

Dang dude thats some good stuff there.

Hard to play bad golf with a swing like that.

Well, that's nice of you to say, thank you. Unfortunately, I am still struggling with cutting across the ball (i.e. out-to-in path with divots pointing left of the target line). I can't even get my divots pointing straight with pitch shots and half wedges, so what chance do I have with the full swing? It's frustrating.

No dude you are doing great . . . Just monitor it so you continue to build it into your motion. Keep video going. You just need to know what to look for. Ball flight will tell you largely as well.

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BC85,
May be the camera angles but I think you are getting "FLATTER" at top.

The Bear

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread. I honestly appreciated every post. However, I have decided to start taking instruction from Paul Hart (my first lesson was today) due to the confusion and frustration associated with trying to troubleshoot issues over the internet. If you guys are interested, I'll continue to post updates on my progress.

Lucky you, Paul Hart knows his TGM

Yes, Paul really knows his TGM (and golf in general). In addition, he is also a very nice person. He addressed some issues regarding hinge action and pivot. However, for the pivot he would like me to get a 3D motion analysis done through Zenolink. Although it sounds interesting, it is quite expensive (per analysis) and I don't know if it will improve my understanding of (and my ability to execute) correct golf swing fundamentals/mechanics.

I haven't been practicing my total motion much since the lesson with Paul. This is mainly due to the poor weather (it has been raining quite regularly) and identifying that my short game also needs significant improvement. The accuracy with the putter and wedges has been very disappointing. I would like to re-build my basic motion and gradually build it into an acquired and total motion.

I still have a lot of unanswered questions in regards to the golf swing, but I am constantly learning and hopefully the answers will reveal themselves in time.

There is no substitute for the face to face lesson. Video's are second best, words a distant third. But all are useful to some extent, if only for clarification.

The language of TGM is especially useful, unique even.......I can now talk over the phone or internet with Lynn or Ted say without any "broken telephone" miscommunication. I know of no other golf speak that even comes close to TGM when discussing specifics. None, zero. Obviously it helps if they know your swing. I bet you'll have this same experience with Paul.

Hey, anyone ever noticed how often TGM's detractors still speak its language?

Check back in and let us know how things are going with The Dart! Or perhaps for clarification on terminology , language.

Not to reflect on Paul's teaching abilities, but things aren't going great currently. I desperately needed a lesson this week, but due to Paul being in high demand he is unavailable for a month. This is unfortunate, as I have an upcoming tournament in six weeks which I would like to be prepared for.

I feel like my short game is heading in the right direction. I am getting up and down more (when required) and I am taking better advantage of birdie opportunities by sinking more putts. However, my scoring has not improved due to inconsistent ball striking resulting in poor accuracy.

I am still struggling with an out-to-in path. Paul believed this was due to my pivot. Apparently, my hips were moving too slow and too far (when they need to be moving quickly and not as far). This is fine to acknowledge, but even after practicing biomechanically orientated drills I cannot apply this in my swing pattern.

In addition to the path/pivot problems, I also struggle to time the horizontal hinging correctly. It's a 50/50 chance as to whether I'll hit a drive two fairways left with a snap hook or two fairways right with a cut.

Whether it would be a wise move (or not), I am contemplating abandoning swinging and re-building my swing pattern (from basic to total motion) as a hitter. I feel that it may suit my aggressiveness better. However, maybe this is a crazy idea that has come about as a result of me spending too many nights being depressed about my poor golfing. Paul (or anybody) hasn't been able to tell me straight as to whether this would be a good/bad idea.

I just want to understand my swing pattern. I have a better understanding of TGM concepts, yet I can't apply them. I have resorted to swinging to right field with a horizontal hinge in an effort to try and get some form of accuracy.

Anyway, that is my rant. Sorry you had to read it. Clearly, golf is not the best sport for impatient people such as myself.

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Current video?

I'll try and get one uploaded tomorrow. My regular camera-man has been MIA on the golf course.

This is the best I can do for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvOJeU9j5cw

I still have the odd looking follow through. Thankfully, Paul has agreed to see me tomorrow. Hopefully, I can get back on the right track.

Please ask Paul to teach you not to use the Hand Throw.

Oh man you've got so much going for you with that action. You're close really close. Dont despair. Its just fine tuning through impact Id say. Throwaway, Rhythm (in a tgm sense), Lag Pressure....."over acceleration that menace that stalks all lag and drag".

Goof with Hitting if you want. Even if it doesnt work out, you might learn something that you take to Swinging. Like getting to Both Arms Straight for instance and the power of completing the clubs orbit.

Thanks for the replies.

I have tried to search "hand throw" on these forums to get a better understanding of what it is and why I would want to stop doing it. Unfortunately, due to it being almost 2:30AM my ability to read and comprehend is lacking. Could you elaborate on your suggestion so that I could discuss this with Paul?

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You need to get your hands more "behind you" so you want get your hands coming out so fast . . . you make the correct move you just need more "depth" in your plane so you do get out. From where you are your going to hit pulls and cuts. Turn your hips more and feel like your arms never go UP . . . feel like they never get higher than your belt. You CAN MAKE CHANGES . . . the pics above prove it.

REREAD POST #41 where you made these nice changes . . . .






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I'm at work so I gotta do some real work . . . but if you draw some lines down from your right shoulder . . . . notice how much farther forward/downplane your shoulder is in the grey sweater pic. On the most current pic it is farther back so the club is going to start working left faster and the face will close faster so you end up hitting pulls and cuts. You need to push your hips forward and UP . . . feel like you are getting your entire spine more left and your hips more left and up . . . that will keep them turning and get everything more down plane.

Feel like you are going to do a volley ball dig . . .

Hogan's dig is gonna go way higher and farther than your dig . . .