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I would call my "Putting" with EA dynamic tension because I hold back against EA with my slightly bent left arm.
I suppose during the down-stroke of a full stroke a little bit of that is also occurring. |
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you feel that slightly arch left wrist is best position to come in towards impact for a horizontal hinge swivel. Then how does the right arm contribute. or does the right arm contribute at all during the impact zone? |
"Closing arguement" to the jury
I am going to try and make my point one more time. Because I believe it is important.
Analogy- the triangle should be structurally sound LIKE A CARPENTERS FOLDING RULER. Lay the ruler on a table and make a triangle. Several sections in each side. OK. The side representing the right arm can be bent at an intermediate joint in that side and that will change the angles but the other two sides do not change length. EA “stretch” the left arm side?? I argue should say holds straight. I also argue that the shoulder side does not receive the instructive attention needed. The shoulder side should receive minimal distortion during a swing. 2-M-3. The list (total list of shoulder muscles not 2-m-3 list) of muscles available – (for compensation?????)- in the shoulders is very long. I see only 2 muscles of the shoulders that are useful to golf. Deltoids-only front deltoids. for lifting the arms and pectorals to hold the shoulders forward. Once you get to top you don’t need the deltoids any more. EA is just one tool used to make a solid structure. AND it does not MOVE or flex or lengthen the other sides. It stiffens the structure but so does the pectorals and the mental intention to make the structure solid. EA is important but only a part of what it is intended to “PREVENT”. I make this argument as a one piece arguement that should be read as one piece. The Bear (again) |
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So how does Accumulator #3 Swivel the Left Wrist to Vertical for Impact? The Key, is to fearlessly allow the Hands to continue Down-Plane through the Impact Interval. While the Right Elbow is Straightening during Release, when using a Turned Right Wrist, the Right Elbow will Counterclockwise Rotate the #3 Accumulator a few degrees IF the Hands continue Down-Plane. But who does that? :laughing9 I'm thinking of the Primary Lever when pulled by CF. When the whole Left Arm and Clubshaft form this Lever, the Sweetspot Plane is the Center of Gravity of the entire Lever. Any Rotation should around the Sweetspot Plane, not the Shaft Plane, which is the way it is when the Hands continue Downplane and allow the Flying Wedges and #3 Pressure Point to Rotate Counterclockwise to Vertical for Impact and for Horizontal Hinging. If the Hands aren't going Down through Impact, then any Hand Rotation will cause the Sweetspot to Rotate around the Shaft. Maximum Right Elbow Bend at Release is needed to Insure that the Hands Continue Down through Impact. Right Arm Participation is considerable for a Swinger as well as a Hitter. The Right Forearm Wedge controls Roll. Roll is Clubhead (Location), Hinging is Clubface. Left Hand, Right Hand. |
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But I dont any more. Not since hearing that Homer saw no use for EA with a bent left arm. Im thinking that at issue, amongst other things, is a constant Radius. Now if you perfectly match the EA with a counter pull at the left hand, there is no issue but perhaps no point either. You've zeroed out the E.A.'s stretch of the left arm. For me it was a stretch between the two hands only. It felt like something but it was just hand tension as opposed to true EA. Ive goofed around with a straight left arm , flat left wrist Crenshaw style so I could employ E.A. (Lynn encouraged me to try to try a flat left wrist when putting). It has a lot of benefits to it. Very much like Chip Basic, tons of structure to the flying wedges, you can get to both arms straight, its easy to isolate one arm as the power source (assuming you're Zone 2 putting) etc. But there's a lot of water under the bridge now , its hard to make a change like that. |
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I woke up this morning and started to think again- that is seldom good for me and does no one else any good at all. But here goes my ramble. I think what TGM is and what G.O.L.F. is. I think what a fine system of learning and developing a golf “game” it is. I am reminded that a basis is the book. What a fine but difficult book it is- thanks HK-. Then I see what a fine teacher and communicator and demonstrator of the “Alignments” and translation and understanding Yoda is- Thanks Yoda. We are all lucky. Then I recall Ben Doyle. “gentle ben” because he has a way of communicating to a big guy how to take all that will to attack into a gentle “touchy- feely” world. Then I read again chapter 4 and 5 particular 4-D and 5. A how it all fits because it is Imperative that I include 1. “Flat” left wrist 2. Lag pressure point and a straight plane line and all with Rhythm Balance and a steady head. Then I think about how I handle some of this and what is the feel. When I swing I have a very light grip. Barely touch the club. Swing my wrists and let the hands do what the have learned almost automatic. Sometimes I throw in a little #2 intentional uncock to get things” zipping” But that is my thing. When I hit I have am “more solid” grip and I use my hand more- I say hands not fingers. OK now I am ready for more TIPS and that is great because This has to be turned over again and again in my computer. Whaiting for the chicks to all hatch.
End my ramble in the lounge. The Bear |
I really wondering how important accumulator #3 is? Tim Clark is known to be unable to supinate his left arm. On playing lesson he describes how he cannot even turn out with his left hand to get change from a drive in window!
Granted he's not that much of a chipper or a long hitter. But really accurate fairway player. My point is that left forearm supination is part of the swivel process and it interesting to see how even top professional dont utilize all the accumulators to full potential. I think one the reasons his percentage in greens in regulation is so high that he cant under swivel or over swivel thru the ball offline. just my 2cents:eyes: |
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Sooo, I have to comment in the blind. When incorperating any new or changed element into your swing do it first in very slow motion and Look, Look, look at every detail. As you speed up, at the first wobble, back up and correct it. The Bear |
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I was doing this for about 2 weeks.
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It was one big swivel and the distance was pretty good. By simply driving the primary lever, I gain a lot of short game control, though. I need all of it plus. Pat |
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Is there really a tip #2 or were you just teasing us:) |
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I'm really sorry for the delay, because I had that open window of time and ruined it with the poor photography. |
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i think your being overly generous to the critics. |
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1) Is the uncocked left wrist the same as the "flat left wrist?" 2) If it is the same as the FLW, then it is able to be swiveled, right? 3) Is there a danger or problem with starting out with a uncocked left wrist at address? 4) Where is this area contemplated in TGM? 5) Is there any other advice you'd like to offer regarding the use of the uncocked left wrist? Thanks! Patrick |
Folks who never experimented with Hitting will not normally come to this conclusion but..... THE RIGHT WRIST MUST BE FROZEN IN ITS IMPACT FIX DEGREE OF BEND by impact. Hit some right hand only chips and see for yourself the necessity for a bent right wrist. For those starting at Adjusted Adress you've got to find it , for those starting up at Fix you got it. Not saying there's anything wrong with finding it from adjusted. There can be a little play so to speak, lagging startup, but by impact its solid, frozen.
The right wrist is not a source of power.......sorry .........and so it does not fire , it does not go from fully bent to fully unbent. It will unbend but not actively which would be active Throwaway , active bending of the ideally flat left wrist. |
OB, I'm lost. I'm sorry. It was bound to happen given enough of my screwy concepts.
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I start at impact fix and then uncock my left wrist by rotating my right forearm or by uhmm, uncocking my left wrist. :) It seems easier. ( I have a better sense of the ULW though the RFFW does still cock the left wrist a bit as it travels to the top ) When I take the fully uncocked left wrist to top by RFT or by TSP, the ULW seems to immediately snap into place. As I thrust down on pp# 1, or rotate the power package, the prim. lever is locked out with the ULW and the direction is very predictable as long as I align the impact to the inner right quadrant of the ball. I do not allow the right wrist to unbend. The distances are very good owing to the delofting of the club and the longer travel of the lever in a uniform accelleration. (That's my guess, anyway.) I have to make sure that the club face is not square at impact or a snap hook will result. The ball is played in front of middle for all clubs. I'm sorry to miss your point. Feel free to point out the obvious mistakes. I won't be upset and I'm sure your remarks will help my swing. Patrick |
Like your explanation of EA, this FS material is great!
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Then I started to hook everything. :crybaby: I will keep studying. Bread crumbs and whole loafs are appreciated! Patrick |
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