Again, humorous and informative!

First of all I don’t believe Homer stayed away from the movement of the muscles, bones and joints (Kinesiology).

I feel what he put in the book about the muscles in the golf swing was what he thought the average golfer would understand.

There is no doubt that Homer studied the movement of the body when writing the book.

I am not saying the average golfer needs to study the body but the instructor does.

He owes it to his students to know what options they have as he watches their body movement.

You can look at it from geometry and physics all you want but if that golfer can not move correctly.

You best have a backup plan. Knowing the body is a good backup plan.

I can show you with the 3-D swing trainer I designed that it is not as easy as clapping your hands.

All the golfers I tested on the 3-D swing trainer went off plane on the back swing or had the club face to open or to closed somewhere in the swing before impact.

The better golfers could get back on plane and square up the club face.

When they trained with the 3-D swing trainer they could practice the plane, clubface and club head action knowing it was perfect every time. They could see it in 3-D.

You cannot just assume you are correct with the plane by tracing with PP#3 because you are not most of the time. You might be close but not perfect.

Perfect is what I want my students practicing and that is why I designed the 3-D swing trainer so they could practice perfect.

You can trace and see the correct plane, club face and club head movement through the swing. Impact fix, standard address, right forearm takeaway, plane shifts and many other alignments all are practiced perfect with the 3-D swing trainer.

You will be hearing more about this 3-D swing trainer in about 10 days as I am ready to release it.

Advertising Policy
 

I'm letting your post stand, John, even though the last half is in direct conflict with our longstanding posting rules, specifically Rule #5. http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s....php?p=4#post4

But there will be no more about the swing trainer except per my post tonight in your now closed thread. http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...4638#post54638

In fairness to our other partnership arrangements soon to be announced, these are the necessary rules of the road from now on. Thanks for understanding.

:salut:

The hands/arms work on a vertical circle while the rotator cuff controls the right shoulder motion which also works in a circular motion which is anticlockwise kinda like over the top motion

No problem I will not post about it anymore until you have had a chance to see it for yourself.

Lynn, I want you to be one of the first to see it and will get one to you soon.

Thanks,

I didn't say it was a clap of the hands. I said the motion is that of a simple clapping motion. Clap your hands and watch your forearms- there it is. That forearm movement is what you need. what muscle moved that forearm? Who cares. Did you preform the movement correctly, bet you can. Homer moved his Hands, traced plane lines, built machines. I have never read or heard a single word about applied Kinesiology from Homer. Read 1-L. If Homer spent any amount of time studying Kinesiology and it didn't get a lick of mention anywhere, then it was not compelling enough to help anyone.

My pp3 tracing is not too shaby nor is my Straight forearm thrust of my right forearm flying wedge. A classic tgm action that requires no Kinesiology knowledge. Just obiterate the plane line to the low point plane line and hear the sweet intoxicating sound of impact. Perfection? What is? Who is? Regardless, Lynn and Homer built me a nice machine, and I don't know my antibrachial fascia from my humerus in doing so.


A golf swing is a Hinge Action of an Angular Motion on an Incline Plane.

I have no doubt you have learned good action with TGM book from Homer and Lynn teaching it to you.

I am just saying that the more knowledge the better.

If you don’t want to know about how the body moves that is ok.

I was just talking about more knowledge of the body movement and how to practice it perfect. More on that later.

I to as an authorized TGM instructor want every golfer to experience the yellow book as I know it is the way.

Mutual Agreements
 

John,

Thanks for your followup email with launch dates and pricing. I know your product line and look forward to doing business with you at LynnBlakeGolf.com.

:salut:

The watch or drew?

I've always found broken watches funny.

Ticked Off
 

Did you get that information "second hand"?

Funny Faces
 

My guess is that he uses them just to "unwind".

:confused1

Pocket watch?
 

Wind-up watches?:eyes: ...you must be father time! :laughing9

I'm Late Cuz It's Cloudy
 

Remember, Okie, I'm at least 900 years old. When I came in, sun dials were all the rage!

:sunny:

Spinning It In The Dark Ages
 

Without a shadow of a doubt :happy3: .

Too much time on your hands
 

... and as far as I'm concerned, the days of the digital watch are numbered.

This thread is now just too punny for words.:laughing9

Time 'Machine'
 

It's 'hour' site, and we're proud of it!

:rolleyes:

A lot has gone down since I went in late for work.

Taking Names
 

I'm writing down names of people to avoid - the more I read this thread the more I realize that everybody on it - qualifies! :eyes: :confused1

Minute Maid . . . Minute Mike . . . Whatever
 

Mike,

Is this your 'watch' list?

:headbang:

Add me:

How long a minute is, depends on which side of the bathroom door you're on.

I don't think you'll have any trouble having people NOT be around you . . . that will not be a problem at all.

What time is it?
 

It's TIME to end this thread! It was a mistake for me to get involved- Bagger please delete all my posts in this thread! Help me Mr. Wizard! Help me!

I also like to joke around but the video I posted here might be one of few showing Mike Austin teaching.

To Mike Austin fans this is just like having a video of Homer teaching.

How about giving it a little respect as Mike Austin was in the same crowd bumping heads like Homer. If you get my drift.

Back To Mike Austin
 

Purehitter is right. We've had a nice little 'time-out' -- :naughty: -- but now let's all return to our seats and the original programming.

:salut:

I don't know about Bucket...but I am sorry!
 

Sorry Purehitter...Bucket made me do it! In addition to your contribution I did a youtube search and enjoyed watching Mr. Austin's swing, very much.

Pure- Lighten up. We like to joke around if the thread path is set on ANY topic. We come back to it in time. As for Austin- I see nothing in the clip that hasn't been covered better by Doyle, Tomasello, Lynn Blake or any of our Pro contributors. Im sure Austin followers drool over it but my own personal opinion of it is less than enthusiastic for the above reason.

What about it rocks your world?

The experience I had working with Mike over 14 years is priceless. I am sure it is the same with Lynn and his time with Homer. Mike setting the long drive record of 515 yards is unbelievable with the balls and equipment they had back in the 70’s. Mike talked about applying torque to the handle. This was his secret as Mike put it. His right hand was driving hard and fast through impact. I wish he was still around to debunk the kinetic chain theory nonsense I hear on another forum. I say it is the fall of Rome over there so to speak. I even hear Caésar is now saying you don’t have to point at the plane lines anymore on the back swing. Tour pros don’t he says. He even put up an audio file about it. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. I know Homer would not want to hear that.

Pure would not Austin still have snapped the kinetic chain...whatever that is
His right hand may have been driving/accelerating baton twirling but would not the left arm slow down at release?
How does the Caesar of Rome snap his kinetic chain?

The Caésar of Burning Rome would have us believe the rock gets thrown because the hands slow down.
I believe the rock gets thrown because we let it go.
What causes the hands to slow is an inability of the human motor to generate the required force. The required force (to the keep the hands moving fast) as the club releases, begins to increase. The club is pushing back on the hands.

Some golfers foolishly follow their instructors' advice and intentionally try to slow their hands. I'm saying the dynamics are such that hand slowing can/does occur and that is does not mean momentum is being transferred in the convention (impact) sense. It simply means there's not enough horsepower available to keep them moving at the same speed. The cg of the club has moved away the center of rotation and therefore inertia has increases... more torque is needed... more horsepower.

Take a look for yourself.

http://www.jssm.org/vol4/n4/17/v4n4-17pdf.pdf

If a golfer's "kinetic chain" never slows down the club will still release.

Nesbit's scratch golfer's hands didn't, they never slow down. In fact they're accelerating right up to impact.

Who is this Caésar? Manzella?

You said it not me.

Well- you implied and always bring him up. I don't traffic his web site for over 2 yrs now. I have read posts of yours on fgi and other forums praising him as the one AI who knows it all (and beyond.)

Missed this, earlier
 

I know that my mind is in my mittens....and on most occassion I have no trouble taking my forearm (with its side-kick...the golf club) up, back and in to my chosen top location. I am tracing a straight plane line the whole way in anticipation of destroying the same on the way down, out and forward. Perhpas knowing the muscular progeniture of this "magic" would have accelarated my progress. Except it came in the form of "fanning" sans-club, "fanning" with a kid's plastic club, "fanning" with a dowel, finally "fanning" with an implement ill suited for the task! I tend to use RFT and "fanning" interchangeable because I am such a big....FAN!

With all due respect I do not have to know a darn thing about the muscles to be able to have a three dimensional interaction with the ball! Geometry of the circle and the phsyics of rotation is about as deep as Okie wants to go! Forgive my narrow mindedness.

David Orr's explanation was sufficient...making special note that the hand originates it all.

Okie i understand you and been down that road you are at . But one day the thruth will set you free and i am not saying what you are doing is wrong. But in my opinion you are ready for the final stepping stone

I never said he knew it all but I thought he knew enough. That was before I knew what he was trying to do. I thought he was an ok dude? I was wrong and I admit it. Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me.

To what do you refer kind sir?
 

Well, that just makes me M.O.R.A.D:naughty: I have checked out the Dark Side a bit. Of course if that is not what you are referring to then throw me a frikkin' bone will ya!:( Golf has removed (painfully) all dignity and pride. I am teachable...but don't be a tease! :laughing9

Duh.. Your expecting too much from me ..

Purehitta!
 

Ya gonna spill the pintos, or what?:scratch: Give me a primer of sorts, please. I promise not to tell anybody!:evil5: