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Yoda 02-29-2008 07:38 PM

Wanted: An Eighth Edition
 
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog (Post 50446)
Agree with you bucket, leave the book alone, no 8th edition needed....

I understand the spirit of your post, golfbulldog, and I agree. However, in my opinion, an 8th edition is needed to:

1. Correct a couple of oversights from Homer's 6th; and

2. Correct the 'unforced errors' of the 7th.

:)

comrade 02-29-2008 08:23 PM

the best site on the web !!!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 50414)
Mathew's animations in our Gallery represent the promise of those future multimedia presentations. He and I collaborated as LBG was getting underway. I had long dreamed of seeing Hinge Action (and the Geometry of the Circle and the Plane and a number of other things!) as an animated presentation. When he produced his 3-D animation -- he is not a professional and taught himself to use the software -- I was astonished. My posts introducing the Hinge Action Animation reflected my admiration for his creativity and conviction that it was nothing less than historic work.

Mathew had made it happen!

No big deal? I beg to differ. As few as four years ago, only a handful of people in the world (amateur or Authorized Instructor) truly understood Hinge Action. Fewer still could correctly articulate and demonstrate it. And then, via Mathew's inspiration and perspiration . . .

There it was!

Hinge Action visually presented so simply everyone could understand. For the human application, see my Hinge Action Videos #1 and #2 here: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...ry.php?cat=517

I was grateful to Mathew then.

We should all be grateful to him now.

:salut:

yoda,

not only has matthew and made a valuable contributions to golfdom but you especially have. as have very many of the people posting on your site. many of them have a great understanding and committment to the golfing machine. that is why your site is by far the best golfing website.

i love the idea of multimedia and maybe "deep divisions over the presentation and/or interpretation" is an overstatement. but i did say could and not would . i know that you are faithful to the book and any interpretationof the book by you would be great !

but i think what i had in mind was a totally comprehensive multimedia presentation of the entire book , relationships , possible stroke patterns, incompatible component parts. being completely faithful to the book inthat regard might be easier to do than i think, but it seems extremely hard. and it seems that with only the book itself there are at least "divisions" of followers of the golfing machine. but keep doing the multimedia. i think it's great !

your golfing machine comrade in arms:salut:

Yoda 02-29-2008 09:22 PM

Visions
 
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Originally Posted by comrade (Post 50450)

yoda,

. . . I think what i had in mind was a totally comprehensive multimedia presentation of the entire book , relationships , possible stroke patterns, incompatible component parts. being completely faithful to the book inthat regard might be easier to do than i think, but it seems extremely hard. and it seems that with only the book itself there are at least "divisions" of followers of the golfing machine . . .

Comrade,

We are agreed that your vision is an ideal. And you are correct that not all Authorized Instructors are "faithful to the book" (most in ignorance . . . a very few by deliberate intent).

Unfortunately, in the real world, making this ideal happen is realistic only for the owner of the property. Certainly, it makes no sense to someone who not only would not benefit from the work, but who, in the attempt, would face significant legal damages.

:(

12 piece bucket 02-29-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 50454)
Comrade,

We are agreed that your vision is an ideal. And you are correct that not all Authorized Instructors are "faithful to the book" (most in ignorance . . . a very few by deliberate intent).

Unfortunately, in the real world, making this ideal happen is realistic only for the owner of the property. Certainly, it makes no sense to someone who not only would not benefit from the work, but who, in the attempt, would face significant legal damages.

:(

There are some goofballs that are saying The Golfing Machine 1969 to 2007 RIP. That's class. If there weren't people ready to sue the heck out of people . . . The multimedia deal could be put together relatively low budget. It would take some time and some talking out how to organize it but it could be done. Unfortunately looks like those that were handed the ball let the air out of it and went and sat over on the bench . . . touchdowns??? We don't need no stinking touchdowns!!!

mrodock 03-01-2008 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by comrade (Post 50384)
mrodock,
it's nice to have the little golfing machine revolutionaries behind you ??!!!

:rambo: :rambo: :rambo: :rambo: :rambo: :rambo: :rambo:

Indeed :rambo:!

comrade 03-01-2008 04:24 AM

i must confess many of my ideas are utopian .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 50454)
Comrade,

We are agreed that your vision is an ideal. And you are correct that not all Authorized Instructors are "faithful to the book" (most in ignorance . . . a very few by deliberate intent).

Unfortunately, in the real world, making this ideal happen is realistic only for the owner of the property. Certainly, it makes no sense to someone who not only would not benefit from the work, but who, in the attempt, would face significant legal damages.

:(

yoda,
i undertstand .
talk about idealistic , i suggested to the owner , as probably others have , to put audio clips of homer's master classes on thegolfingmachine.com . along with all of homer's notes for all of his editions of the book . that would make for some very interesting archival research . especially concerning later editions !!!!

it would also be an extremely worthwhile project to interview extensively everyone who knew homer , even if only to gain small insights into the book and it's development . or for those who only have an intrinsic interest in the greatest golfing mind of all time. the book is obviously that important , to those who are serious students of it ,and to the history of golf .

stay within your legal boundaries and keep fighting the good fight , and the golfing machine revolution will become a historical necessity !!!!

your golfing machine comrade in arms :salut:

Mike O 03-01-2008 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 50459)
There are some goofballs that are saying The Golfing Machine 1969 to 2007 RIP. That's class. If there weren't people ready to sue the heck out of people . . . The multimedia deal could be put together relatively low budget. It would take some time and some talking out how to organize it but it could be done. Unfortunately looks like those that were handed the ball let the air out of it and went and sat over on the bench . . . touchdowns??? We don't need no stinking touchdowns!!!

Bucket,
Seriously Man- Let it go! Whining, complaining, wishing- they don't get you anywhere and it just brings down whoever does it. It is what it is- now move on and do what you can control! All this thread does is allow you to get some frustrations out- but you gotta sit back and consider the damage it does. At least that's my take. Also - I've locked this forum from further posting- wait a minute - only Gay has that ability!!:) :naughty:

Yoda 03-01-2008 07:38 PM

Locked . . . But Not Locked Out
 
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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 50484)

Also - I've locked this forum from further posting- wait a minute - only Gay has that ability!!:) :naughty:

For the record, t'was I who locked the Mayakoba thread. Seemed fitting to let The Man himself have the last word.

=D>

Jeff Hull has another thread on Brian's victory in the same Forum. I left that thread open and encourage anyone so inclined to post there.

:salut:

Daryl 03-01-2008 08:57 PM

Hmm?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 50459)
There are some goofballs that are saying The Golfing Machine 1969 to 2007 RIP. That's class. If there weren't people ready to sue the heck out of people . . . The multimedia deal could be put together relatively low budget. It would take some time and some talking out how to organize it but it could be done. Unfortunately looks like those that were handed the ball let the air out of it and went and sat over on the bench . . . touchdowns??? We don't need no stinking touchdowns!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 50484)
Bucket,
Seriously Man- Let it go! Whining, complaining, wishing- they don't get you anywhere and it just brings down whoever does it. It is what it is- now move on and do what you can control! All this thread does is allow you to get some frustrations out- but you gotta sit back and consider the damage it does. At least that's my take. Also - I've locked this forum from further posting- wait a minute - only Gay has that ability!!:) :naughty:

Hmm? Of many possible options, three of them are:
1. you play the role, “I’m ok, you’re Ok” and let everyone do their own thing and pretend that it’s all inconsequential and follow in the footsteps of a lot of AI’s by going your own way.
2. you play the role, “I’m Ok and you’re a GOOFBALL” and remain a student and follow the AI of your choice.

As for myself, my Favorite,
3. you step up to the ‘Plate’ and accept some responsibility for the teams future and cautiously play the role, “I’m Ok and you’re almost completely wrong” and take a stand by admitting that TGM is not open to interpretation and supporting those paving that path to ensure that it remains true to HK’s original intent and viable in the future. Stepping Up, is as simple as participationg on this web site and spreading the word.

Action is the best way, because is resolves conflict by emphasizing agreement through understanding. Action is very hard work. Inaction is like being fed through a tube and I don’t like the idea that someone can change the menu. :)

Anyone who wants to do a Multimedia presentation on the concepts of HK is perfectly free of legal liability. Copyright law does not protect Concepts, Laws, Principles and Procedures. :salut: Copyright Law protects the Original author or owners from a "Literary" point of view as in a work of Art. You cannot write a book called Golfing Machine, revised 8th edition. But you can write a book titled: Interpretation of the Golf Principles of Homer Kelley, by 12 Piece Bucket. You can also publish all of the Training Manuals for sale and profit and have your own schools based on your Book and your own authorized instructors. And, your book will be protected by copyright law too. And you may sell 5 million copies, in English. I'd love to see the Chinese version; I heard that they're planning a lot of Golf Courses.

Uppndownn 03-01-2008 09:16 PM

Stop the presses.......
 
But you can write a book titled: Interpretation of the Golf Principles of Homer Kelley, by 12 Piece Bucket.

Now that would be a best seller!!!!!!! :eyes:

One free RC and moon pie with every book order!


UPP in still snowy Ohio

12 piece bucket 03-01-2008 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 50484)
Bucket,
Seriously Man- Let it go! Whining, complaining, wishing- they don't get you anywhere and it just brings down whoever does it. It is what it is- now move on and do what you can control! All this thread does is allow you to get some frustrations out- but you gotta sit back and consider the damage it does. At least that's my take. Also - I've locked this forum from further posting- wait a minute - only Gay has that ability!!:) :naughty:


What damage does it do? I don't have no skin in the teaching game . . . I'm a CUSTOMER . . .

Daryl 03-02-2008 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uppndownn (Post 50499)
But you can write a book titled: Interpretation of the Golf Principles of Homer Kelley, by 12 Piece Bucket.

Now that would be a best seller!!!!!!! :eyes:

One free RC and moon pie with every book order!


UPP in still snowy Ohio

Maybe a booklet to outline the Video. I can see a video shot in Buckets back yard. Little flags sticking out of gopher holes and old tires laying on the ground to practice passive hands. A chicken running in the background occasionally for color. Bucket could be drinking a beer while giving Mike O a lesson. They could wear camouflage golf hats.:golf:

Mike O 03-02-2008 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 50514)
Maybe a booklet to outline the Video. I can see a video shot in Buckets back yard. Little flags sticking out of gopher holes and old tires laying on the ground to practice passive hands. A chicken running in the background occasionally for color. Bucket could be drinking a beer while giving Mike O a lesson. They could wear camouflage golf hats.:golf:

Dang it Bucket! I told you that video would get in the wrong hands before we got it to market. If you would have stopped drinking and had a little more control over the material- then we wouldn't be dealing with this kind of stuff! If Daryl has it - that fires me up- what's his home address!!:rambo:

hjacknicklaus 03-02-2008 09:27 AM

C'mon bucket
 
Stop mincing words and tell us how you REALLY FEEL

:salut: BUCKET BOY

H

12 piece bucket 03-02-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 50516)
Dang it Bucket! I told you that video would get in the wrong hands before we got it to market. If you would have stopped drinking and had a little more control over the material- then we wouldn't be dealing with this kind of stuff! If Daryl has it - that fires me up- what's his home address!!:rambo:

that's really bad news cuz at the end it has that part with you helping the cow over the fence . . . .


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