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Daryl 02-15-2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 49802)
Boogerhead . . .

THE RELEASE APPROACHES SIMULTANEOUS THE MORE OVERLAP THERE IS.

One cannot be a little pregnant. :) Coming Close ain't the same thing.

Uppndownn 02-15-2008 03:37 PM

Overlap
 
I sense plenty of overlap around here.......

UPP in going to the Golf Show Ohio :golfcart:

Daryl 02-15-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Uppndownn (Post 49805)
I sense plenty of overlap around here.......

UPP in going to the Golf Show Ohio :golfcart:

Hey, ask around if there might be interest in a shaft warmer or ball warmer I'm inventing. :) :) :)

12 piece bucket 02-15-2008 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 49804)
One cannot be a little pregnant. :) Coming Close ain't the same thing.

You ain't never been round here before then . . .

Daryl 02-15-2008 04:01 PM

:laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9

Mike O 02-15-2008 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 49808)
Hey, ask around if there might be interest in a shaft warmer or ball warmer I'm inventing. :) :) :)

&C :hang: :rambo: :violent: ] ..........(*,)

Hey Bagger- I don't want to be a pain but only eight emoticons per post??!!!??? I had 15 and it said it would only allow me 8!!!! Where is my premium membership that allows unlimited emoticons per post- I want it now!:crybaby:

12 piece bucket 02-15-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 49838)
&C :hang: :rambo: :violent: ] ..........(*,)

Hey Bagger- I don't want to be a pain but only eight emoticons per post??!!!??? I had 15 and it said it would only allow me 8!!!! Where is my premium membership that allows unlimited emoticons per post- I want it now!:crybaby:

They gotta start handing out permits for people to have offspring . . .

Bagger Lance 02-15-2008 09:45 PM

More Cow Bell!!!
 
Mike PM'd me today.

"Bagger - I got a fever, and the only prescription is more emoticon. I gotta have more emoticon!!!"

I'm not sure what to make of it, but like mullet rock and cowbells I have to oblige.

Daryl 02-15-2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 49847)
Mike PM'd me today.

"Bagger - I got a fever, and the only prescription is more emoticon. I gotta have more emoticon!!!"

I'm not sure what to make of it, but like mullet rock and cowbells I have to oblige.

I would limit his emoticon choices. He'll be using them in complete sentences.:blackeye: :angry2: :notworthy :thumbdown :icon_golfball: :drool: :golfcart:

golfbulldog 02-16-2008 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 49794)
The Swinger's Sequenced Release Motions -- Uncock to Level, then Snap Roll (from Turned to Vertical) into Impact -- brings the Cocked and Turned Left Wrist into Release with the Right Hand 'palm up' to the Plane (10-20-E). This produces the Maximum Power application of both the #2 and #3 Accumulators.

Why does the uncocking stop at level and then held in place at level whilst the swivel into impact occurs?

I ask because I like a sequenced release feel and trying to incorporate it into my swing helped alot! But i just can not explain to myself why the uncocking stops at level...:( :eyes:

My thoughts so far are that it occurs because the sweetspot is off the axis of the shaft...or rather the sweetspot plane (ie the one that matters) is off the axis of the shaft....and then I start to get cloudy physics... not sure...

at low point...maximum extension...there will be a straight line between left shoulder and sweetspot ( in an uncompensated swing) and the shoulder, elbow and wrist will take on whatever form is required to achieve this...the body follows the physics...

But joining up the explaination between release ( cocked , turned left wrist ) and low point... my thoughts are cloudy ...any help please.... why does the left wrist not fully uncock and then roll...that is my question!!... the rest was pre-amble...or just ramble!!!:laughing9

golfbulldog 02-16-2008 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 49790)
Thank you.
Before I go back to my closet to finish off our videos :)

Is this a hint that there is new stuff being prepared ?? :golf:

Daryl 02-16-2008 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by golfbulldog (Post 49863)
Why does the uncocking stop at level and then held in place at level whilst the swivel into impact occurs?

Golfbulldog,
You asked the Magic question.
The Magic of the Right Forearm Question. Pass Go and collect 200 dollars. The Left Wrist is passing through its “Level” position at Impact.

Consider the Left Arm as a Rope tied to the Clubshaft at one end and Your Left Shoulder at the other.

All Left Wrist Action (Bending, Cocking, Rolling) is controlled by the Level and Bent Right Wrist and Right Elbow. From the Left Wrists point of view, it’s doing the Uncocking, but from the Right Elbows point of view, as it straightens, it Uncocks the Left Wrist. Therefore, fully Straightened Right Arm equals Uncocked Left Wrist. Following Impact, at full extension, both Arms are Straight but the Right Wrist has remained Level and Bent.

This is all in the Cliff Notes. Page 821 paragraph 16. :) Illustration #549, the "Swingers Release Sequence" High Speed COLOR photo's should help to understand this better.

golfbulldog 02-16-2008 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 49873)
Golfbulldog,
You asked the Magic question.
The Magic of the Right Forearm Question. Pass Go and collect 200 dollars. The Left Wrist is passing through its “Level” position at Impact.

Consider the Left Arm as a Rope tied to the Clubshaft at one end and Your Left Shoulder at the other.

All Left Wrist Action (Bending, Cocking, Rolling) is controlled by the Level and Bent Right Wrist and Right Elbow. From the Left Wrists point of view, it’s doing the Uncocking, but from the Right Elbows point of view, as it straightens, it Uncocks the Left Wrist. Therefore, fully Straightened Right Arm equals Uncocked Left Wrist. Following Impact, at full extension, both Arms are Straight but the Right Wrist has remained Level and Bent.

This is all in the Cliff Notes. Page 821 paragraph 16. :) Illustration #549, the "Swingers Release Sequence" High Speed COLOR photo's should help to understand this better.

Ok Daryl - i think i see it...the left wrist is not uncocking in isolation... it is uncocking in concert with a straightening right elbow which is attached via a fixed and level right wrist...

Does that mean that is the right wrist were not level then the left wrist would not be level at impact too...or would that just be a timing issue and hence highly variable??

Lightbulb not fully on yet...but it has started to flicker...

Daryl 02-16-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by golfbulldog (Post 49876)
Ok Daryl - i think i see it...the left wrist is not uncocking in isolation... it is uncocking in concert with a straightening right elbow which is attached via a fixed and level right wrist...

Does that mean that is the right wrist were not level then the left wrist would not be level at impact too...or would that just be a timing issue and hence highly variable??

Lightbulb not fully on yet...but it has started to flicker...

Here’s another 100 volts to add to that light bulb.

If your Right Wrist is Level and Bent at Impact Fix and you return to impact with the same alignments, then, your Left Wrist will be identical to its alignments when it was at Impact Fix: Flat and Level. FLV/BLV

cometgolfer 02-16-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 49881)
Here’s another 100 volts to add to that light bulb.

If your Right Wrist is Level and Bent at Impact Fix and you return to impact with the same alignments, then, your Left Wrist will be identical to its alignments when it was at Impact Fix: Flat and Level. FLV/BLV

And the right arm is not straight at impact. So the right elbow still has some uncocking of the FLW to do as it goes to followthru and both arms straight.

Daryl 02-16-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cometgolfer (Post 49884)
And the right arm is not straight at impact. So the right elbow still has some uncocking of the FLW to do as it goes to followthru and both arms straight.

Good follow-up. :)

gmoney_69 02-16-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 49873)

All Left Wrist Action (Bending, Cocking, Rolling) is controlled by the Level and Bent Right Wrist and Right Elbow. From the Left Wrists point of view, it’s doing the Uncocking, but from the Right Elbows point of view, as it straightens, it Uncocks the Left Wrist.

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Originally Posted by cometgolfer (Post 49884)
And the right arm is not straight at impact. So the right elbow still has some uncocking of the FLW to do as it goes to followthru and both arms straight.

A hitter's left wrist is uncocked by the straightening right arm due to muscular thrust.

A swinger's left wrist is uncocked due to centrifugal force.

golfbulldog 02-16-2008 01:58 PM

making sense - thanks Daryl!

If you were to swing purely left armed ( like a right arm above elbow amputee) and you did a sequenced release ... then would the left wrist uncock fully ( ie. beyond level)...BEFORE it then rolled??

ie. it is only the impact fix "level" alignmnent of the right forearm/wrist that means that left wrist stops uncocking at level and then rolls? Is that correct?

Daryl 02-16-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by golfbulldog (Post 49895)
making sense - thanks Daryl!

If you were to swing purely left armed ( like a right arm above elbow amputee) and you did a sequenced release ... then would the left wrist uncock fully ( ie. beyond level)...BEFORE it then rolled??

ie. it is only the impact fix "level" alignment of the right forearm/wrist that means that left wrist stops uncocking at level and then rolls? Is that correct?

1. It must be very difficult for a Left Arm only Golfer. No magic of the Right Forearm to manage the Left Wrist. In the Book "The Search for the Perfect Swing" there was a one Arm Golfer who did very well but I don't remember Grip to Plane Geometry.

2. The Left Wrist doesn't 'stop uncocking' at Impact. The Left Wrist from Release to both Arms Straight continues to Uncock. The uncocking will pass through Level at Impact if your Right Wrist remains Level Throughout The Stroke and if it was Level at Impact Fix.

Bagger Lance 02-16-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by golfbulldog (Post 49864)
Is this a hint that there is new stuff being prepared ?? :golf:

It is. I'm polishing the polish - This is the biggest project yet. We'll be making an announcement soon.

golfbulldog 02-16-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 49903)
It is. I'm polishing the polish - This is the biggest project yet. We'll be making an announcement soon.

Spring sounds as though it is coming early this year! thanks!

12 piece bucket 02-16-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 49903)
It is. I'm polishing the polish - This is the biggest project yet. We'll be making an announcement soon.

Polishing . . .

Nah . . . too easy.

Bagger Lance 02-16-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 49914)
Polishing . . .

Nah . . . too easy.

Good - I'm signing you up. I know you can polish with the best of em. There are some videos in the wings after this set. Clean up your gear and get ready.

hg 05-26-2008 11:14 AM

I'm curious too
 
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Originally Posted by coolstv88 (Post 49593)
Hey i was curious how the endless belt would look super imposed upon a golfer, ... from down the line ...


This is a question I have too that was not addressed...what's makes it more interesting are the pictures from 9-3-6 thru 9-3-10 appear to be taken from an angle and not directly face on making the path appear more vertical. From DTL what does the belt look like and what is its relationship to the elbow plane and turned shoulder plane.


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