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A Private Exchange and Public Plea

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Originally Posted by Yoda

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Originally Posted by ckniker

Hi Yoda,

I'm not sure I understand your response in the thread I started about the Zero Pivot in the Hinge Drill.

"Can't read past here, ckniker. We have "issues" . . .

Namely, with the basic definitions of Swing Radius and Low Point.

Until we agree on these basics -- yours definitely are not those of TGM -- further conversation, questions, observations, etc. result only in more confusion. "

I am truly interested in learning more about TGM and have literally spent the last couple of weeks watching (and rewatching) every video of yours I can get my hands on. I purchased your Alignment DVD and the TGM book from Ben Doyle and have spent many nights going to sleep with it in my head.

With that said, I am trying to understand the system the best and fastest way that I can (by asking questions on your forum as it's the absolute best resource on the subject). I am technically minded and think I have a fairly strong aptitude for the concepts.

If there was anything in my forum questions that was inappropriate or incorrect, please let me know. It was not my intention to confuse or offend.

I have been playing golf for over 20 years but only within the last 2 have I taken it seriously. I have read and watched more golf books and videos than I care to admit. Candidly, TGM is the system that makes the most sense from a logical and technical standpoint.

Sincerely,
Chris

No problem here, Chris, and certainly no offense taken (certainly not by me, and I hope not by you). We just have to get our definitions straight for the thread to make any sense and for you to make the progress you seek.

Ask in the thread for further information. My participation will be limited because I'm off to California and a private school through the weekend. No worries: We've got a number of knowledgeable guys on board here, so I'm confident we'll all soon be on the same field.

lb

:salut:

Ckniker and I exchanged the above PMs earlier this evening. All was and is cool here. Except as provided in our rules of decorum, we don't censure or condemn around here. That said, our Forums bear ample evidence that disagreements can be spirited! :eyes:

What needs to happen here is a common definition of Swing Radius and Low Point.

My Post #7 above gives important information, but as I've stated in the above PM, Yoda is pretty much 'out of the building' this next week. So, please guys (you know who you are!) . . .

Help!

:salut:

What changes notations should I make the 6th edition's 12-3-1 BASIC MOTION 2nd sentence where it reads : "Zero out the PIvot, Shoulder Turn and Accumulator #3" ?

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Originally Posted by ckniker (Post 87047)

For the purposes of a newbie just getting started in TGM and trying out my first drill (the Hinge Action Education), what EXACTLY is a Zero Pivot?

Does a Zero Pivot imply that the only thing that should move are the arms ? (i.e. is the idea to get the feel of having no rotation around the spine?)

I tried this drill over the weekend, and can only assume that (if I was doing it correctly) the ZP causes a "feel" that will be felt only (or primarily) by "hitters" and not "swingers".

1) Hinge Action Education

Per 2-G: "For a Practice drill, Educate the Left Hand (5-0) to reproduce - with Zero Pivot - the three Hinge Actions, distinct and separate, while swinging continuously back and forth. First without a Club, then with a short Club, then with both Hands. Then with increasing Pivot motion using the Right Forearm per 7-19. Learning only one Action isn't so helpful because you won't know their differences.

Wow. This is why I love this Forum and Website so much. I mean; some people wait forever for someone to post such a great question, but at lynnblakegolf.com, it happens every day.

CKnicker, the Right shoulder is like a conduit through which the Pivot transmits all force and geometry to the Power Package. Move the right shoulder a little bit and as long as it doesn't directly influence the Power Package with Force or directed Alignment, then you've met the "Zero Pivot" requirements. Also, Variations in Right Shoulder Location can vary "Low Point" Location so, using Zero Pivot will maintain Low-Point opposite the Left Shoulder.

HK's intentions, although not spelled out, are for you to practice "Hinging" only around the "Pulley". That means no Straight, or Angled Delivery Path. It also means that you must know and understand all of the various Power Package Alignments for Release. Just you and the Pulley. You Have some options. Without Force and Motion from the Pivot, you'll isolate the Alignments of the Right Elbow, Hands and Clubhead/Clubface and be able to Practice them by preventing interference from an occasional poor Pivot Execution.

For Dual Horizontal Hinging you can practice Throwout by Tracing the Arc of Approach or you can add a little Layback to the Clubface by Tracing the Angle of Approach. For Hitting, use "Drive out" to practice Angle Hinging or use it to Trace the Arc of Approach to produce a Cut Shot (Dual Vertical Hinging - no Clubface Closing).

Anyway, the options are seemingly endless and can provide hundreds of Hours of fun and enjoyment and productive Practice. :)

Now, if only someone can show you what all of this means. :laughing9

Thanks for the response, Daryl.

Lots to chew on in your thought-provoking reply, many of which go beyond my to-date understanding. I've got lots more to read and understand.

Candidly, this is the first I've seen anyone refer to the "Pulley". For my benefit, can you briefly describe (or point to) what you mean? Given that my questions are related to the Basic Motion drills, I can only assume that this doesn't involve a wrist cock (accumulator #3?).

(Correct me if I'm wrong but the wrist cock doesn't get added until Acquired Motion (?)....)