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Originally Posted by dlam (Post 75814)

airair, I like your enthuasiasm.
This year I just learned about TGM. Had only vague idea between hitting and swinging.

I refer to old posts by Yoda as he distinguishes hitting and swinging very well.
Difficult to understand all at once, but the more i played this summer,
my questions seem to be asked and answered in older posts.

In this forum, swingers are primary pullers of the club
who use the left side as a pivot.
the clubface will square automatically as long as you trust it.
awareness of PP2 or PP4 is essential.

Hitters are like to "push" the club or more precisely the primary lever (your left arm+club)
the right arm will thrush toward the ball
squaring the clubface is a conscious effort
requires aiming point/spot with PP1 or PP3

typically,
swingers like to make a full backswing sometimes past parallel in their backswing and make a circular delivery to impact.
hitters tend to make a 3/4 backswing and use a straight line delivery to impact.

here's two players IMO that are at two ends of the spectrum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv5vaa-FhL0

Which player do you think is swinging and which hitting??

The Bear

One is (over)swinging. I quess hitters seldom "overhit"?

Looking through release

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 75822)

One is (over)swinging. I quess hitters seldom "overhit"?

Daly loads his right forearm as a HITTER, behind the primary lever asembly. Holmes loads his right forearm as SWINGER. Daly has a punch, right elbow at side, forearm. Holmes has more of a pitch, right elbow down and in the pocket. elbow. BOTH look to have a sequenced release of 2 and 3. It is hard to see what either is doing with #1 and #4. I make Daly more of a hitter at the top with a "funny" bent wrist overswing "yank and grip" start move at the top.
Just a guess, I'm new to this stuff.

The Bear

It is a little strange that it is so difficult too see who is who. If we ask them, they can maybe say if they push or pull - or like non TGM-players/instructors who say they do both. Complicated.

http://www.golflagtips.com/hitting-vs-swinging-part-1/

I don't know if it is permitted to use other websites, but here are some videos and pictures of the difference between swinging and hitting.

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 75832)

http://www.golflagtips.com/hitting-vs-swinging-part-1/

I don't know if it is permitted to use other websites, but here are some videos and pictures of the difference between swinging and hitting.

Thought U might find this video as best demonstration:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p....-Hitting.html

The Bear

I have seen it and I understand what he says, but it's actually not so easy to see the difference. What's good about the link I came with is that we can study one frame at a time in the pictures. (Click on a picture and it becomes a slide show.)

I remember a golf digest picture of vj singh when he was #1
and it showed his right hand was hardly gripping on the club at impact.
vj singh swing at that time was the epitome of a swinger not a hitter.

Has that changed since then, u mean?

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Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 75849)

Thought U might find this video as best demonstration:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p....-Hitting.html

The Bear

Thanks Bear, in regard to airairs note about how hard it is to see a difference:

Id say Lynn's Drag Loading in Startdown when he's Hitting there. A super good way to go for sure, but its not a demonstration of 12-1-0, Drive Loading. Hence the difficulty ,perhaps, in seeing much of a difference between his swing and hit.

Its sort of like black vs white and all the shades in between. Lynn is a Master and he could show you every shade if you wanted but in that video he was showing his personal , preferred versions of hitting and swinging I think........ divided perhaps/maybe by only a difference in the Release Trigger he employed.....Left Wrist vs Right Arm Throw. Thats my take.

If you wanted 12-1 vs 12-2 he could do that too but thats not what he was demonstrating there. That would be more black vs white.