Why the turned shoulder plane
 

According to 10-13-D, the right shoulder moving towards impact precisely on the preselected downstroke clubshaft plane establishes and supports the power package alignments -- the ideal way for the shoulder to move. But for the shoulder to move down the clubshaft plane during the downswing, it should already be on this plane at the start of the downswing, no? Well, the right shoulder will be on the downswing plane by definition when swinging the club on the turned shoulder plane. Zero Shift + Turned Shoulder Plane = Fewer Complications

Which champion golfers kept the club on the shaft plane for a full swing? That is pretty flat isnt it? I can see it after a shift back to the TSP or for a short shot.

multi shift
 

Doesn't Mr Garcia shift to the hands plane?

From The Top
 

I would say from Turned Shoulder vertically to Elbow Plane.

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The shaft plane at address don't mean shhhhhhhhhhh . . . .

Remember Mr. Kelley said you could clown the backstroke . . . the REAL plane is probably defined at Start Down . . . Then you can figure out what kinda shifting and junk is going on. All this junk about spot lining and crap . . . come on . . . who REALLY gets the face looking right at the target that's 100 plus yards away. Plane Angle shifts are HAZARDOUS and EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS THE CLOSER YOU GET TO PAY DIRT. Mr. Jack Nicklaus didn't match the shaft plane . . .





Hogan probably matched the Elbow Plane as good as anybody to ever lace 'em up.







Snead shifted it out and whipped it down to the Elbow Plane

On Plane? Where?

Langer On Turned Shoulder Plane?
 

Nicklaus TSP?
 

Nicklaus TSP? Elbow-ish; in this photo.

[quote=12 piece bucket;66622]The shaft plane at address don't mean shhhhhhhhhhh . . . .

Plane Angle shifts are HAZARDOUS and EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS THE CLOSER YOU GET TO PAY DIRT. Mr. Jack Nicklaus didn't match the shaft plane . . .



Let me refrase this. Who doesnt shift planes in Total Motion? Im thinking that ideally you start with the right elbow and hands on the shaft plane (what we call the elbow plane) and get back there at impact. The more minimal the shift the more consistent. But I cant think of anyone with zero shift. Moe came close but he had an almost zeroed out #3 angle too. Perhaps this was his secret? Basic and Acquired are a different story, there you can find zero shifts.