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Thanks Richie, I follow you blog daily. I try to get my basic motion looking like you flying wedge drill but a shorter motion.
My main culprit is throwaway, I am so hoping TGM can help me with that. The ingrained buliding blocks of flat left wrist and bent right. When you have flipped your whole life it's so tough to get that out of your muscle memory.

I could hit the impact bag or Ben's tire 50 times and do it right, still that full swing I would lose my flying wedges and my impact alignments. So, I am basically having to re-learn impact while still playing rounds at the same time with friends.

I have always been a good chipper with forward shaft lean and ball first contatc. It's just trying to find that light of when the right arm gets parallel or higher and trying to get back to impact with the proper angles. I must make sure the pivot is sound as well. I am now using Ben Doyle's setup routine and setting up with right forearm as close to on plane as I can. Then I try to fan that right arm and just turn.

When I think hard about aiming point, hands forward, compress down in a full swing I hit some nasty flying slices out to the right. It seems the more forward my hands are, the more open the clubface. I think this it due to a poor pivot and just becoming armsy and lunging down at the ball.

Oh, to be able to take a forward divot in a full swing and not just flip and pick it sky high and lose distance...It's the bain of my existence!!!

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 63841)

Most of it sounds ok Joe.

some issues:

1. Zero out the #3 Accumulator. Move the Grip of the Club up into the lifeline of the left hand. Now you'll have angled hinging. More important is that you removed some variables so that you can focus on what's to learn in basic motion.

2. If you fan your right forearm during the Take-away, you should feel a lot of pressure from your left arm crashing into your chest. Are you moving your left shoulder? That's the only reason I can think of that would prevent you from feeling the pressure. Don't move your left shoulder during the takeaway. Stay centered facing the ball. Are you using Extensor Force to pull your left arm straight, downward and across your chest?

3. Are you a Hitter? Why are you thrusting your right arm? Even hitters need to learn basic motion by driving (moving) the right shoulder toward the plane-line. Your Head is the Pivot Center and your right shoulder will move your left shoulder around the Center (your head) Learn this before you start pushing with your right forearm. Then you'll have a better understanding of when and how to use the right forearm if you decide to push.

It's all about the "Flying Wedges".

Your club should remain a simple extension of your left arm (Flat Left Wrist, Primary Lever).

Others may move things independently forward for demonstration purposes, but keep the "Basic Motion" very basic. It will teach you three dimensional impact, power package structure, etc.

During the Backstroke, because of your fanning right forearm and stationary left shoulder and downward extensor force and flat left wrist and level right wrist, your arms align to the geometry of the Flying Wedges. On the forward stroke keep them Aligned this way, or assembled-structured. Learn to swivel this Power Package around your stationary head by using a little thrust from your right shoulder. Your Power Package should feel like a merry-go-round with your head at its Pivot Point.

The bolded section is where I think my confusion stems from.. It doesn't matter if you are hitter or swinger, you are simply powering this small movement with a push from your right shoulder, correct?

Thanks..

Charley

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Originally Posted by UTGolf73 (Post 63857)

Yep. A push down toward the Plane-line.

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Originally Posted by joeunc (Post 63848)

My main culprit is throwaway, I am so hoping TGM can help me with that. The ingrained buliding blocks of flat left wrist and bent right. When you have flipped your whole life it's so tough to get that out of your muscle memory.

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Oh, to be able to take a forward divot in a full swing and not just flip and pick it sky high and lose distance...It's the bain of my existence!!!

The good news is that it can be straightened out. Here's some progress I've made, with the top pic being less than a month ago (it may be hard to see since it has a black graphite shaft, but if you look closely you can see the club shaft going down by my left foot with a flip action of the wrists)

Now here's an impact position I taped on Tuesday.

So, don't give up hope. I played with a flip for 20 years. I'm not some golfing genius by any stretch.

One of the brilliant parts of Homer Kelley's work is the drills give the golfers the correct mechanics and then let the golfer come up with their own subjective feel.

Once I understood that, my swing and game improved. In fact, I believe I looked like the top pic last week. Once you get it, you will 'own it' and probably laugh at really how simple and easy it is. Then curse the fact that you wish you were doing this all along.

Just keep doing the drills, with basic motion first, then acquired, then full motion and concentrate on feel and that will be the gateway to golf swing nirvana.

3JACK

Jack, it looks good. Maybe a tad more bend at the Hips to keep them a little more behind you and to put a little more bend in your right arm at impact. Then, change your name to Ben.

Problem is I cannot find any of those white caps to fit my gigantic cranium.

I played the other Saturday with my old man and a friend and as my friend was about to hit he said 'heads up!' and my old man told him not to bother yelling that because if it hit me in the head it would probably just plug.

Of course, I don't what the ruling is on an embedded lie from the skull.

3JACK

thanks 3Jack. I must remember to take it slow, step by step. I ordered the Alignment Golf DVD's yesterday.
But when you have been playing for so long, it's tough not to want to go out slap at balls all day. However, I am going to go through the stages this time. Since I can now do generic basic motion with a forward leaning shaft, I am going to start callng my hing action before each shot. To learn to be able to control that flat wrist. I will probably have to make a tad longer swing than basic motion in order to get horizontal or angled. Or I may be wrong and I "should" be able to get all 3 in short basic motion?? Correct??

thanks
Joe

Another session at lunch today, about 200 balls in groups of 25 with 8, PW, 60'. It was the best day so far I feel.
Watching Yoda's "Holie - Polie" video really helped with getting the right forearm motion. And the first 3 or 4 balls of each group I did right arm only with the exact same process of the video- imagine forearm on a table in front of you, get it horizontal and then bend over to the ball keeping the club and forearm in line.

I even, near the end, starting moving to small baby pitches with a left wrist cock. Some were good, some I hit behind the ball but today I had more "clicks" off the face than ever before.

I can really start to feel that right wrist bend and keeping PP#3 active. The left just feels like it is doing nothing more than holding it's initial alignment. It's almost like it feels like I am hitting the ball with a lagged "pop" of PP#3.

Now I have to get the pitch down and keep on that basic and do the right arm only drills. It seems hard to imagine getting that same feel from basic into my whole swing. Should be fun, let's hope!!

thanks
Joe

Where can I find the "Holie-Polie video?

it is here:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...nd-Polies.html

under the gallery, free videos, LBG Reality TV section