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O.B.Left 03-08-2009 10:59 PM

Nice one Bagger. Take the flame suit off and take a bow.

Very informative post, Ive copied it to my file for future reference.

OB



PS Is the Automatic Snap Release what we all should seek, for power anyways. Hitter or swinger? Should Tom Watson have slowed his hand speed down to achieve a smaller pulley wheel crazy as that may sound?

strav 03-09-2009 03:59 AM

Many thanks Bagger, this is a very interesting topic and you have included a wealth of info in your posts which will take me a while to dissect and digest.
Thanks again.

Delaware Golf 03-09-2009 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 61811)

Bear with me on this one...I throw in text references so my fellow students can keep me honest.

Release occurs during downstroke section (8-7) of the swing, specifically at Section 9 (8-9) after the Startdown and Downstroke sections have begun. Its location is dependent on the selected release "Trigger" (10-20) and it is known as the period of clubhead acceleration.

In terms of accumulator release for the full swing, the "Swinger" will use accumulators 4,2 and 3 and the loaded accumulators will be released in that order. They can be omitted, sequenced or overlapped (6-M-1) depending on preferences and the club in hand. The Hitter will typically use 1,2 and 3 and sometimes 4,1,2 and 3 sequence in the full swing.

Release for each accumulator begins when their loaded condition starts to seek its in-line condition or unload. For accumulator #4 it is when the left arm begins to move away from the chest, for #1 its when the right arm begins to straighten. These two actions are nearly inseparable but when #4 is in use, #1 must follow except when #4 is used exclusively with a no release procedure such as a 10-3-H Paw Minor stroke. The definition of the release of the power package is when the first accumulator in use begins to seek its in-line condition.

The more conventional definition for release is the 4-D-0 Release Motions which specifically refer to the motion of the wrists - Accumulators 2 and 3; Wristcock and Roll. The uncocking of the flat left wrist is used in conventional golf instruction to describe "The Release", but in Golfing Machine parlance this is not the correct definition, it is only part of the story.

The beginning or "where" of release occurs based on a defined release "Trigger" (7-20). The Triggers (10-20), also known as "Throws" are The Hand Throw, Right Arm Throw, Shoulder Turn Throw, Delivery Path Throw, and Wrist Throw. They can be used stand-alone or in combination based on the list in 11-20 and they are closely tied to Release Types. The location of release trigger is where the Right Elbow first begins to straighten (6-B-2-0, 7-20 first paragraph, and 6-M-0).

The Triggers or Throws are tightly integrated with their associated Release Type (10-24). That is Sweep, Random Sweep, and Snap of which there are automatic and non-automatic versions.

In summary and in my best lay instruction - release location is defined where the right elbow begins to straighten so make sure you position it where you want it. Its why 7-20 is titled "Plan Ahead".

Got my flame suit on so fire away...

Please demonstrate the difference between a Shoulder Turn Throw and a Wrist Throw Trigger???

Bagger Lance 03-09-2009 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 61819)
Please demonstrate the difference between a Shoulder Turn Throw and a Wrist Throw Trigger???

Not interested. I know where you will take the discussion and this isn't the thread for it.

O.B.Left 03-09-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 61814)
Is the Automatic Snap Release what we all should seek, for power anyways. Hitter or swinger? Should Tom Watson have slowed his hand speed down to achieve a smaller pulley wheel crazy as that may sound?


Let me rephrase this:

I currently do more hitting than swinging, with a driver I tend towards a Sweep Release. Should I necessarily seek the later release, smaller pulley wheel? Homer recommends the late release for power, I believe. I'm also assuming Automatic is generally preferable to Non automatic. The Snap Release is so dang beautiful but it is for everybody?

Thanks
ob

Bagger Lance 03-09-2009 12:22 PM

Back to the Future
 
This thread might be of interest to you O.B.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...light=triggers

I think the only thing I've added to the discussion of release triggers on this site is the focus on right elbow location and motion.

Delaware Golf 03-09-2009 09:32 PM

Enlightenment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 61820)
Not interested. I know where you will take the discussion and this isn't the thread for it.

Well...please start a thread where you can answer the question. I'm sure you would enlighten a few LBG members.

DG

Bagger Lance 03-09-2009 09:41 PM

Punching "Bag"ger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 61828)
Well...please start a thread where you can answer the question. I'm sure you would enlighten a few LBG members.

DG


Let me think about it for a minute...

NOPE

But go ahead and knock yourself out.:)

mb6606 03-09-2009 10:55 PM

Didn't Mr. Kelley say there is no release of the lag pressure or something to that effect? When I swing correctly I can feel the bent right wrist all the way into finish. What does Yoda feel?

12 piece bucket 03-09-2009 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606 (Post 61830)
Didn't Mr. Kelley say there is no release of the lag pressure or something to that effect? When I swing correctly I can feel the bent right wrist all the way into finish. What does Yoda feel?

That is correct . . . . accumulators release but lag pressure essentially disapates.


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