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MizunoJoe 11-04-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 87780)
Then with that grip type a Purely Vertical Left Wrist Cock Plane of Motion could have a corresponding visually flat left wrist at Top. For golfers with "stronger" left hand grip types than Mizuno Joes "very weak" left hand a visually or literally flat left wrist Top can only be achieved via the introduction of some Horizontal Left Hand Motion......a less than ideal thing. Some "arching" say.

"Flat" in Homer speak is not necessarily literally flat .... The Left Hand at top must correspond to the grip type employed . Which for most means there's some degree of a " cup" present.

But here's my head scratcher: Given the above and assuming its desirable to have the left hand laying flat to the face of the Inclined Plane at Top , wouldnt this imply that there is only one Plane Angle available to the golfer absent any Horizontal left Hand Motion? Only one Plane Angle where he can cock his left wrist Vertically and get his Left Palm lying on the face of the plane?

For any inclined plane, the leading edge of the club has to be parallel to the plane of the left hand, if you want both to lie in the inclined plane at the top. So if you have a strong grip, you can have either the hand or the leading edge in the inclined plane, but not both, regardless of any hand manipulation.

O.B.Left 11-06-2011 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 87792)
For any inclined plane, the leading edge of the club has to be parallel to the plane of the left hand, if you want both to lie in the inclined plane at the top. So if you have a strong grip, you can have either the hand or the leading edge in the inclined plane, but not both, regardless of any hand manipulation.

I believe Homer would go for the left hand , given his notion of Grip Rotation......which alters the left hand to leading edge relationship progressively as the ball moves back of Straightaway.

Those guys who look at the face at certain points in the swing often dont take into account the amount of Grip Rotation. They only look for a certain relationship to the left forearm at top or a particular face position at Both ARms Straight without any consideration what so ever for the effects of Grip Rotation.

Still got some fog around this thing about plane of the left wrist cock and the hand laying flat to the plane though..........unless there is a "geometrically flat to the inclined plane" thing going on with Homer. I dunno.

MizunoJoe 11-07-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 87829)

Still got some fog around this thing about plane of the left wrist cock and the hand laying flat to the plane though..........unless there is a "geometrically flat to the inclined plane" thing going on with Homer. I dunno.

Apparently, me too. I noticed yesterday that even with my ultra-weak grip, when I go to a literally flat left wrist at the top, the clubface is still slightly closed, which would explain why I'm continually fighting pull hooks.

eddycossio 02-22-2012 05:16 PM

Gerry Hogan
 
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