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Yoda 03-21-2008 08:57 AM

Seeing Is Believing
 
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Originally Posted by strav (Post 51448)

Does this confirm or disprove Hogan?


Check out the Hogan downstroke photos here: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/cmps_in...age=multimedia

And . . .

You tell me!

:)

strav 03-21-2008 09:44 AM

So that's a yes?

hg 03-22-2008 09:19 PM

Good Practice Session
 
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 51442)
I would recommend Brian's motion to anyone, Swinger or Hitter.

Body Control (9-1) -- Pivot
  • Stationary Head (2-0-A-1).
  • Stable Feet (10-17-C) and Knees (10-16-C).
  • On Plane Shoulder Turn (10-13-D)
  • Delayed Hip Turn (10-15-B)
Clubshaft Control (1-L-A)-- Plane Line Tracing
  • Right Forearm On Plane at Address.
  • Right Forearm On Plane through Impact.
Clubhead Control (1-L-B) -- Lag Pressure.
  • Loaded by the Pivot.
  • Delivered by the Arms.
  • Guided by the Hands.
Clubface Control (1-L-C) -- Flat Left Wrist and Hinge Action.
  • When Centrifugal Force drives the Clubhead -- Swinging -- the tendency is toward Horizontal Hinging.
  • When Muscular Thrust drives the Clubhead -- Hitting -- the tendency is toward Angled Hinging.
Regarding Pivot Drills, I recommend the MacDonald Exercises #1-4 and #10-11: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=4435.

Also, selected portions of the From Mechanics to Feel videos in The Gallery:http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...ry.php?cat=509.

Finally, when available, Disc #2 -- Drills -- from the soon-to-be-released Blake/Trolio Series.

:)


Today I had a good practice session....my swing has been wobbly lately...I kept in mind Yoda's checklist above and Brian's motion ( I have fortunately seen it in person) and what seems to be a minor adjustment made a big difference in the quality of my contact and the feeling of being able to HH through the ball. It was in my SETUP. First, I set the club on its natural lie (which was more upright than I had been doing) than the right forearm on the same line. This brought me closer to the ball ....I felt comfortable being more upright with my upper body & with minor knee flex & with no hunched over the ball feeling. It seemed like the rest of the swing fell into place. Can something this minor make that much difference...maybe so.....it sure seems if you start your setup incorrectly ...a chain reaction of setup issues can occur which will disrupt the entire swing.

Jeff 03-23-2008 01:12 AM

I noted that Brian Gay has his hands higher at address (on the elbow plane) than most PGA tour players who have their hands on the hand plane. Can one cock/hinge the wrists as easily during the backswing when starting from a higher hand postion? Why do most PGA tour players hold their hands on the hand plane (extension line drawn from the butt end of the club points at the belt buckle)?

Jeff.

hg 03-23-2008 02:44 PM

Brian Gay -DTL Sequence
 
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Here's Brian's driver sequence from a down the line view with reference lines....this may help spur some responses.:smile:

mrodock 03-23-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 51508)
Can one cock/hinge the wrists as easily during the backswing when starting from a higher hand postion?

No. The reason is the lower the hands are at address, the more cocked the wrists are, so as it relates to getting the wrists cocked in the backswing you are ahead of the starting line. The thing you have to figure out is which is more difficult to overcome. Many would argue that lower hands creates far more compensations than having to retrain your wrists. If you don't overroll as you start your backswing your right elbow bend should cock your left wrist.

Daryl 03-23-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hg (Post 51515)
Here's Brian's driver sequence from a down the line view with reference lines....this may help spur some responses.:smile:

HG

I'm not getting this. Is this a double shift? I thought Brian was zero shift. Why did you draw a line on the Square Shoulder Plane? I'm just confused. It's probably just me.

ColtsFan 03-24-2008 10:18 AM

Thanks Yoda,

Ive been out of town all weekend. I really appreciate the check list and will try to start incorporating these things into my prcatice sessions.

You and Brian make a great team!

curtisj76 04-05-2008 12:00 AM

My virgin TGM eyes wonder if Brian uses a RFT? Can someone confirm? Thanks

Daz 04-05-2008 06:01 AM

Low Hands
 
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Originally Posted by mrodock (Post 51518)
No. The reason is the lower the hands are at address, the more cocked the wrists are, so as it relates to getting the wrists cocked in the backswing you are ahead of the starting line. The thing you have to figure out is which is more difficult to overcome. Many would argue that lower hands creates far more compensations than having to retrain your wrists. If you don't overroll as you start your backswing your right elbow bend should cock your left wrist.


These low hands guys are starting from a cocked right wrist position as well though so this means they need to get it to level somewhere in the swing before impact?. Brian starts from a level right wrist so this gets maintained throughout the swing which we know is correct. He demos this on the video with yoda.

This is yet another extra move for them to do along with getting their right forearm on plane before impact.

Lots of compensations as you state mrodock so what are the supposed adavantages of these low hands especially the real low hands guys ala Jodie Mudd etc?

Remember hearing an audio where Homer said low hands would help you get the club up quicker on the backswing.?

Does it affect the pulley size in the endless belt?

Any of the proponents of this help me here ?


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