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neil 11-24-2007 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KOC (Post 46600)

Thanks KOC,
This sounds too good to be true ! Anyone have any experience of it?

powerdraw 11-24-2007 10:22 AM

ive been working on the pulleys pull image in my mock swings, it is odd when one imagines he is pulling down a 20 pound weight how from the top you can almost feel the resistance, the power of the brain i guess. Ive tried this before but the feel is much different when you imagine it on pulleys and not just whirling a weighted head.

very cool...the feel from release to follow-through is kinda whippy if that makes any sense. The noodle is workin this mo!

bts 11-24-2007 11:58 AM

Secret revealed
 
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog (Post 46578)
Please note that this is in the lab section... thoughts expressed for discussion...not trying to tell anyone what to do...:laughing9 . You guys in USA have been busy celebrating Thanksgiving but in UK it is just cold and miserable and I have had time on my hands...so here goes...

Dowels can teach alignments ( geometry ...the "G" in G.O.L.F.) but they alone cannot simulate or teach or simulate the forces ( the "F" in G.O.L.F.).

The recognition of these forces and manipulating the direction of thrust allow hands controlled pivot ... within the constraints provided by stationary something, balance and rhythm.

I was looking for a way to combine the purity of dowel alignment with an element of force or physics. It is my belief that if the brain fully understands the task involved in directing force appropriately... all of the good positions in "position golf" are created...but in a way that is easier to remember and reproduce.

Here are 2 images ( apology to Ted - not many hitters photos i could find!! PLEASE NOTE TED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RAMBLE!!!)




Comments??

These are only meant to teach 7-19 and demonstrate the consequences of loading for hit or swing on 7-3... ie. lag loading and its consequent effect on right forearm alignments and pp3 location at transition...

Please note that a "mini dowel" is essentially grip with laser in butt end to trace staright plane line and attachment to bungee or pulley as appropriate :

- The Swingers mini dowel attaches at tip of grip...to promote a longitudinal pull.
- The hitters mini dowel attaches to bungee at back of shaft around pp3

Also the angle of pulley on the swingers system can be moved to align with the turned shoulder plane to ensure an on plane pull.

Disclaimer :- Please be careful with rope...it is very close to your neck and golf can be a depressing game!!

Finally the "Secret" is revealed, for the "Loading" and initial "Sustaining" parts. Close enough to the overall picture.

The "Sustaining" through impact is what it is all about.

Good Job!

KOC 11-25-2007 01:00 AM

Lately, i read almost all information of Mr. Hogan as far as i can reach, 25 books with his name inside, video and DVD, and i paid attention on his ZONE #1 such as keeping the right knee angle and trace the ball; pivot around the left leg; hip slide before start down...etc

When i went to range, my shots became left, left, left right, left and even shannnnnk :crybaby:

I knew that there is something wrong in such a way of practice. One night after a tricycle accident to my leg (my son crashed to me), i laid down and started to think...If Homer really did take huge amount of Hogan's swing as reference in writing the book, why Homer focused on monitoring HAND instead of PIVOT?

Ben Hogan wrote over 30 pages regarding the GRIP in 5 lessons and he said he wish to have 3 right hands; he said his secret to Life Magazine was his cupped left wrist (with the change of his way to grip), all related to ZONE #3.

With golfbulldog’s pictures, it was a wake up factor! I drew, though very bad, these 3 pictures below and with reference to Denis Pugh recommended so-called “Butterfly Grip”, helped me hitting solid shot after shot – power fade.





The image was awesome! When I pull slowly, the body pivot in response moving slower, when I pull hard, the left hip cleared out of the way for my PULL. It works for me very well and I hope my search is ended.

THX Richard!

powerdraw 11-25-2007 09:24 AM

KOC, could you explain further what these pics represent? and explain the difference compared to bulldogs pics, what link did you find between his pics and what you drew here? thanx

Bigwill 11-25-2007 06:01 PM

also, what do you mean by "butterfly grip"?

golfbulldog 11-26-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KOC (Post 46592)
:salut: :salut: :salut: Dinner for you when you are in HK or China.

Looking forward to it some day KOC! :golf: Thanks!

golfbulldog 11-26-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by neil (Post 46605)
Thanks KOC,
This sounds too good to be true ! Anyone have any experience of it?

I have had a quick go about 3 years ago - it allows a sense of lag loading but is too rigid to feel the sense that YOU have to aim that lag.... the machine forces a movemement to abide by its own hinges...and so you feel lag pressure but no active sense of direction.

neil 11-26-2007 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by golfbulldog (Post 46643)
I have had a quick go about 3 years ago - it allows a sense of lag loading but is too rigid to feel the sense that YOU have to aim that lag.... the machine forces a movemement to abide by its own hinges...and so you feel lag pressure but no active sense of direction.

That"s exactly what I suspected bulldog !. Thanks for your reply -I was thinking that this was a revolutionary device . Seems like I was believing the HYPE.

Thanks again:salut:

powerdraw 11-26-2007 10:31 PM

heres a little Hogan love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Uv3fISjUU

enjoy


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