Yes, Indeed
 

Yep. You are correct. I have on occasion had difficulty, especially when laying my sand wedge way open with slicing right through the sand and hearing a little click. This was no ball first contact, but with the ball so far forward I was not able to penetrate deeply enough in the sand to slide all the way under the ball. The wedge seemed to glide up too quickly (low point probably behind the ball rather than ahead). Of course those were not pretty shots as they tended to rocket out of the bunker with far more pace than expected.

Good catch, Uppd. BTW, I played 36 yesterday with continued success out of the bunkers. All (ALL) my bunker shots so far using this method have come out nice and high with good control. One sandy yesterday with a couple of close calls.

Gret thread, anybody still trying this?

I wasn't but will be now!

It is hard to explain in TGM terms how this works so well...is it a TGM-sanctioned stroke or just an easy way to compensate...but Gary Player, Chi chi and Lee can't all be doing it so wrong.

An "apparent Back in the stance" ball position means up plane normally (assuming a square/square plane line)...so an onplane stroke should be really out and down with this ball position...

But Lee seems to make a fair point about ball too forward..especially in a swing with minimal weight transfer...

Is it all about low point and sand management??

Help please...:eyes:

I would say you hit the nail on the head there about low point sand management.

For too long I've had the ball way forward and have had to manipulate my low point management because I know I'll thin the ball if I don't! This leads to the opposite happening and I keep hitting it fat.

To be fair, I think this has happened by accident though because Dave Pelz says the 'ball forward' is an illusion due to the open stance.

Must go experiment!

:salut:

I just started reading Trevino's "I can help your game" 1972 publication in UK

In his bunker play chapter he advises " when you are playing from sand, it is important to play the ball off the left heel"...maybe he studied the technique of Gary Player later in his life...??

Always looking to learn ...

Here are some Trevino vids from Utube. I like the #3 pressure point at 1:38 of the first video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWzpKfS5dNs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=481PvLcSwAs

For second video mentions another pressure point for throwaway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZFcDudXg5A

Whatever he did...it worked ;)

Anybody else tried the ball back bunker shot?
 

After that vid with Natalie Gulbis, I bet many couldn't wait to try it.
How's everybody doing?

It works just fine in what passes for bunkers where I play most of my golf.