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12 piece bucket 08-27-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 45342)
I agree, Lagster that the fear of banging the ball to the right does cause a lost of Lag, but IMHO, as an outcome of the subconscious result of STEERING. I also think that a fear of totally missing the ball leads to a Lost of Lag due to throw-away- a form of Steering. These golfers just swing the clubhead instead of Educating the Hands.

As you posted, the Hands need to go thru the Line of Sight (centered head) before impact. I do agree that golfers ‘see’ the clubface “open” without the knowledge or know-how as to how it “closes” and quickly try to adjust. The Rhythm of a Flat Level Left Wrist thru the Line of Sight will prevent Lag loss. Here, as your lesson accomplishes, the pivot should respond to the Hands as they Roll on the Straight Plane Line.

How about a fundamental misunderstanding of angular motion and thus why the club is hook faced?

6bmike 08-28-2007 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 45344)
How about a fundamental misunderstanding of angular motion and thus why the club is hook faced?

Sure helps. But as a LagBuster? I threw the clubhead away On Plane- not as well as the Pros though. :crybaby:

drewitgolf 08-28-2007 09:57 AM

Trust your natural instincts and you will be wrong.
 
Not understanding the Geometrical Alignments of Down and Out and the Educated Hands that produce such Alignments gets my vote. I wish I had a dollar for every time I gave a lesson and asked the student how do you get a ball in the air? The response is usually, you got to get under it (well actually I do have a dollar for each time they say that). "Got to get under" it leads to Steering, as pointed out by Mike, and Streering gets its job done by Quitting, geometric disaster.

SECGolf 08-28-2007 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lagster (Post 45321)
Let's discuss the #1 Reason for NO LAG with a FORWARD LEANING SHAFT.

In the book 3-F-7-A, 3-F-7-B, and 6-D go into this. What do you find to be the #1 Reason? I'll start...

#1-- The fear of the ball going to the right. The player senses that if he gets his shaft leaing forward and his hands ahead of the ball... he will leave the ball to the right.

Fix... go ahead and hit some balls on the range attempting to get the hands ahead of the ball at Impact. The hands will probably look like they are over your left toes, and ahead of your line of sight, and with the Clubface OPEN, OR POINTING A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT. After a few balls, if your grip is good, the CLUBFACE will probably start to SQUARE UP at Separation, and some good divots(forward of the ball), and some good solid shots should start coming. I suggest starting with some 1/2 to 3/4 swings( knockdowns) with an 8 or 9 iron.

Even among "educated" golfers, right up there has to be a misunderstanding of hinge action (so obviously, if you don't know about the "label" of hinge action you have even less hope). Specifically, that nothing has to be tried with the hands to execute proper hinge action. The left hand/wrist should be programmed to be in a certain condition (postion relative to a basic plane).
But there is no roll of anything, there is "roll." (imparted by orbiting torso and/or arms). The natural, unfailing hinge assembly is the left shoulder. If you know this, there is no reason in the world to wrongly divert "down and out", "down and out" (of the HANDS - which in turn control the clubface) will be diverted, at the proper time, by the hinge assembly.

Hunter 08-28-2007 05:06 PM

It's In Your Brian
 
How about because your brian is in the Clubhead, not in your Hands?

Burner 08-28-2007 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter (Post 45363)
How about because your brian is in the Clubhead, not in your Hands?

And it's Sister snare - hitting at the ball instead of swinging right through it.

bts 08-29-2007 02:41 AM

Release for no Lag.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lagster (Post 45321)
Let's discuss the #1 Reason for NO LAG with a FORWARD LEANING SHAFT.

In the book 3-F-7-A, 3-F-7-B, and 6-D go into this. What do you find to be the #1 Reason? I'll start...

#1-- The fear of the ball going to the right. The player senses that if he gets his shaft leaing forward and his hands ahead of the ball... he will leave the ball to the right.

Fix... go ahead and hit some balls on the range attempting to get the hands ahead of the ball at Impact. The hands will probably look like they are over your left toes, and ahead of your line of sight, and with the Clubface OPEN, OR POINTING A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT. After a few balls, if your grip is good, the CLUBFACE will probably start to SQUARE UP at Separation, and some good divots(forward of the ball), and some good solid shots should start coming. I suggest starting with some 1/2 to 3/4 swings( knockdowns) with an 8 or 9 iron.

Or early release, the intent to make the clubhead fast right from the beginning.

A FORWARD LEANING SHAFT indicates "Lag".

drewitgolf 08-29-2007 09:34 AM

A Growing List
 
The belief that Effort is Power.

metallion 08-29-2007 12:46 PM

The reason is that the golfers first priority is to hit the ball.

Nuff said.

Details:

The beginner has no chance to produce a pivot that will magically (hands-controlled pivot or proper pivot controlled hands) deliver the hands to the currect position in order for the clubface to hit the ball.

So what happens is that the eyes order the hands to manipulate and manufacture a move that will actually deliver the clubface to the ball.

Unfortunately any presence of lag is lost in the process.

JMO

nuke99 08-29-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter (Post 45363)
How about because your brian is in the Clubhead, not in your Hands?

I really like that one because. Once i was explained that. I understand how to lag and throw at ease.

ie :

Wrist power moves the clubhead.

Pivot and Elbow power moves the grip.

No active wrist power should be used.


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