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cometgolfer 08-07-2007 12:33 PM

Both
 
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 44735)
I'd say most have a "natural" preference . . . I've seen dudes that just can't make their elbow go to Pitch Basic . . . so maybe they should Hit right from the jump.

If the person is a definite Swinger, once they get Swinging down to an acceptable level, they should learn Hitting? Why because learning to Hit solidifies the understanding, maintenace and dependence on Alignments. Mr. Kelley said that the Swinger that learns to Hit will be that much better of a Swinger by learning to Hit.

I've made a concerted effort to move toward hitting over the last 3 weeks. Almost all my practice time in that period was spent "hitting" shots and I was having some excellent range sessions. I decided to take it to the course and despite how I might be scoring, I was going to stay with the "hit". I struggled a little in the first couple of recreational rounds I used it in, but my scoring wasn't much different than it had been this last month or so.

Day 1 of a club championship last weekend and I was committed to staying with the hitting motion. I realized it probably wasn't the smartest decision but I've been in a scoring funk anyway and I wanted to see if I could execute hitting under more pressure. I was having decent results (some good, some bad - mainly with the longer clubs) but after 14 holes decided I needed to switch back to "swinging" for the balance of the round before I shot myself totally out of the tournament. I can tell you that the "swinging drives" I hit on 15, 16, 17, and 18 were the best I'd hit in months. I attribute that almost solely to the fact that the time I'd spent on hitting helped me "crystalize" some swinging concepts that were foggy or just not understood.

CG

neil 08-07-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance (Post 44766)
There is a "I Have No Life" usergroup we can put him in. But he has this "secret life" he thinks we don't know about. The photos have been circulating on the internet for a few months now.

Does he actually have a job?
I do know that he hasn't responded to my earlier question so he must do something when not posting&C or:golf: we already know he likes a bit of this :dance:

12 piece bucket 08-08-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by neil (Post 44759)
Interesting Bucket, did he say why?

Sure did . . . he said that the Hitter is SOLELY reliant on his Alignments and the Machine structure. He said that you could Swing in your sleep because you just crank the gryoscope and just hang on. The Hitter must control every element with regards to Alignments and also Acceleration control. Hitting is harder to learn . . . but once you learn it . . . you just set your Alignments and nothing moves. Then when you go back to Swinging you have CF on your side AND you have the precision Alignments that you have learned from Hitting. With Swinging you can get away with all kinds of stuff. The Right Forearm doesn't HAVE TO be on Plane. You can flatten the Right Wrist and even let your #1 Pressure Point come off the club ala Vijay Singh. You think you can hit without your Right Forearm supporting and driving the shaft??? Hell naw ain't happening.

CF and the Flail will cover up alot of alignment issues . . . BUT when you bring the Alignments you learned from Hitting back to Swinging you're a WAY better Swinger.

You joining the Mike O Bagger tag team??? I met you man . . . you better start smoking dope you got too many brain cells to hang with that squadron. I had to call the paramedics for Mike O today he got black jelly beans stuck in his nose and ears. Beware of the pair with stained underwear.

Mike O 08-09-2007 12:39 AM

Janitor
 
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 44821)
Sure did . . . he said that the Hitter is SOLELY reliant on his Alignments and the Machine structure. He said that you could Swing in your sleep because you just crank the gryoscope and just hang on. The Hitter must control every element with regards to Alignments and also Acceleration control. Hitting is harder to learn . . . but once you learn it . . . you just set your Alignments and nothing moves. Then when you go back to Swinging you have CF on your side AND you have the precision Alignments that you have learned from Hitting. With Swinging you can get away with all kinds of stuff. The Right Forearm doesn't HAVE TO be on Plane. You can flatten the Right Wrist and even let your #1 Pressure Point come off the club ala Vijay Singh. You think you can hit without your Right Forearm supporting and driving the shaft??? Hell naw ain't happening.

CF and the Flail will cover up alot of alignment issues . . . BUT when you bring the Alignments you learned from Hitting back to Swinging you're a WAY better Swinger.

You joining the Mike O Bagger tag team??? I met you man . . . you better start smoking dope you got too many brain cells to hang with that squadron. I had to call the paramedics for Mike O today he got black jelly beans stuck in his nose and ears. Beware of the pair with stained underwear.

Bucket,
I haven't seen you in over a day. I thought it would be easier to reach you here. I know you've been telling everyone that you sell insurance but don't you think you should really tell them the truth, that you're a janitor at the home here. There really is nothing to be ashamed about. But that's not why I posted- I've got a couple of messes and you need to come down and clean them up or you are going to lose your job! Oh ya! DrewitGolf is back - they put him in the room across the hall from mine- he threw the soup of the day all over his room- you'll need to clean that up also when you're down on our wing.

Yoda 08-09-2007 12:53 AM

Aligned Swingers
 
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 44821)

. . . he [Homer Kelley] said that the Hitter is SOLELY reliant on his Alignments and the Machine structure. He said that you could Swing in your sleep because you just crank the gryoscope and just hang on. The Hitter must control every element with regards to Alignments and also Acceleration control. Hitting is harder to learn . . . but once you learn it . . . you just set your Alignments and nothing moves. Then when you go back to Swinging you have CF on your side AND you have the precision Alignments that you have learned from Hitting. With Swinging you can get away with all kinds of stuff. The Right Forearm doesn't HAVE TO be on Plane. You can flatten the Right Wrist and even let your #1 Pressure Point come off the club ala Vijay Singh. You think you can hit without your Right Forearm supporting and driving the shaft??? Hell naw ain't happening.

CF and the Flail will cover up alot of alignment issues . . . BUT when you bring the Alignments you learned from Hitting back to Swinging you're a WAY better Swinger.

Great post, Bucket. Thanks!

:salut:

12 piece bucket 08-09-2007 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 44827)
Bucket,
I haven't seen you in over a day. I thought it would be easier to reach you here. I know you've been telling everyone that you sell insurance but don't you think you should really tell them the truth, that you're a janitor at the home here. There really is nothing to be ashamed about. But that's not why I posted- I've got a couple of messes and you need to come down and clean them up or you are going to lose your job! Oh ya! DrewitGolf is back - they put him in the room across the hall from mine- he threw the soup of the day all over his room- you'll need to clean that up also when you're down on our wing.

Has somebody been trying to smoke beanpods again???

SECGolf 08-09-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 44821)
Sure did . . . he said that the Hitter is SOLELY reliant on his Alignments and the Machine structure. He said that you could Swing in your sleep because you just crank the gryoscope and just hang on. The Hitter must control every element with regards to Alignments and also Acceleration control. Hitting is harder to learn . . . but once you learn it . . . you just set your Alignments and nothing moves. Then when you go back to Swinging you have CF on your side AND you have the precision Alignments that you have learned from Hitting. With Swinging you can get away with all kinds of stuff. The Right Forearm doesn't HAVE TO be on Plane. You can flatten the Right Wrist and even let your #1 Pressure Point come off the club ala Vijay Singh. You think you can hit without your Right Forearm supporting and driving the shaft??? Hell naw ain't happening.

CF and the Flail will cover up alot of alignment issues . . . BUT when you bring the Alignments you learned from Hitting back to Swinging you're a WAY better Swinger.

.

Great, great post. Says so much - in your own words; better understanding for all.

drewitgolf 08-09-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 44827)
Oh ya! DrewitGolf is back - they put him in the room across the hall from mine- he threw the soup of the day all over his room- you'll need to clean that up also when you're down on our wing.

Not done practicing Throw-Out without Throw-Away :sad2: !

phillygolf 12-28-2007 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bts (Post 44708)
Which is first to learn, "swing" or "hit"? Why?

Homer felt most amateurs learned swinging because most people feel and are used to centrifugal force first.



Patrick

phillygolf 12-28-2007 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
With Swinging you can get away with all kinds of stuff. The Right Forearm doesn't HAVE TO be on Plane

12,

Please clarify. This is a reall interesting comment.

When did he say it, what context?

Thanks,
Patrick


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