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innercityteacher 09-16-2011 02:41 PM

Getting ready for club championships
 
[quote=innercityteacher;86871]
Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 86852)

Power Accumulator # 4 and a Flat Left LOCKED Wrist get thrown by the Hula-Hula motion and a nice little fade allows the ball to be found and hit again with power.

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...lat+left+wrist

Knowing the Wizard of Oz and the Yellow Brick Road: Priceless! :golfcart:

ICT

My normal tendency would be to to try the championship flight right off after the quality time I spent with Lynn some months ago, but the "B" flight, which is our largest flight, seems good enough.

The chipping stroke I have been using all summer:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...lat+left+wrist

Typically, I have three or four chips a round that settle to the pin with 12" and are
handed to me by my playing partners. I have been struggling with my drives all summer and recently substituted a Fixed Left Wrist with a longer pause at the top so my hip shift can really drive my Power Accumulator # 4 and arms totally off my chest. It seems more controllable and powerful so we will see.

UPDATE: RAINED OVER 2 INCHES DAY BEFORE, STEADY DRIZZLE DAY OF, SHOT A 90 WHILE LAST YEAR'S CLUB CHAMP SHOT A 77! TOP 12 SAW 6 PLAYERS WITH AN 89 TO MAKE CUT IN MY "B" FLIGHT!

ICT

innercityteacher 09-16-2011 02:55 PM

Besides chipping and putting I will concentrate on this
 
[quote=innercityteacher;86872]
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 86871)

My normal tendency would be to to try the championship flight right off after the quality time I spent with Lynn some months ago, but the "B" flight, which is our largest flight, seems good enough.

The chipping stroke I have been using all summer:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...lat+left+wrist

Typically, I have three or four chips a round that settle to the pin with 12" and are
handed to me by my playing partners. I have been struggling with my drives all summer and recently substituted a Fixed Left Wrist with a longer pause at the top so my hip shift can really drive my Power Accumulator # 4 and arms totally off my chest. It seems more controllable and powerful so we will see.

ICT

Besides McDonald Drills, I need a lower right shoulder ala :

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...lat+left+wrist

2/3 rds short game and 1/3 full swing.

UPDATE: DOING THE MCDONALD DRILLS CORRECTLY AND THOROUGHLY PULLS THE HIPS AROUND AND THE CORRESPONDING SHOULDER DOWN AND ON PLANE. IT IS AN ORGANIC CONNECTION! THE HIPS MUST MOVE TO PROPERLY OR THE SHOULDERS WILL NOT EVER MOVE PROPERLY. THE HIPS MUST BE PROPELLED BY THE DELIBERATE MOVEMENT OF THE FEET AND KNEES OR THE ZONE 3 HANDS CANNOT BE USED PROPERLY ON A CONSISTENT BASIS! (Boy, I really hope I'm right on this! lol)

ICT

ICT

innercityteacher 11-25-2011 02:25 PM

Like a great broth, a golf swing needs time to simmer!
 
Ummmm...I have been simmering in a good way since last Spring's week-long visit with the wonderful Lynn Blake where I learned much more than I could appropriate in a year! :offtheair I was off the grid.

Being newly divorced, in a new apartment with a new high school tech teaching job also helped me be well, occupied. :shaking:

And so, while I was simmering, I was meditating on the first thing Lynn showed me which was the "Marching Drill," and other McDonald drills. I could feel something very different while with Lynn that week but could not assimilate it. I had no kinetic schema just an intellectual understanding. If you watch the videos, I was doing it, the movement of the knees, BUT I DID NOT UNDERSTAND IT! As many of you know, Lynn does not deal in "half-solutions!" He gives his students 110% or more and I was trying to appropriate what he said. I would stay in my room or go to the range practicing the moves but there was so much, I was overwhelmed. :study: :study:

I knew the TGM outline but I had not grasped an essential truth of the system. :idea1: I did an online search for "knees and the golf swing." Eventually, I got to Mike Austin and Mike Dunaway, his protoge. Whether it was my hip surgeries (11), or my artificial hip, or my Gout, or being slow, :iamwithst I could not grasp what I was told in the McDonald March until I saw Mike Dunaway on a dvd five or six times. 'The right knee feels to go to four o'clock and then drives to 10 o'clock, the right hip moves out of the way, the shoulder drops on plane and the hands throw'!


This is exactly what is taught by TGM! And Mike Austin did it very well, very, very well! Honestly, it never occurred to me until then, to simply use the right knee to drive my hip out of the way to come down on plane and throw the club!!!! I think I was sub-consciously protecting my artificial left hip and the shorter left leg but by switching my focus to my right knee, I HAD NO WORRIES!!!

My last three rounds of golf at the end of October and yesterday, saw me hit 16/ 18 drives in the fairways or first shots on par 3's long 240+ and with a very slight draw, which is how I hit most of my shots, now. Though it was 55 degrees yesterday, my 8 iron was 145 yards, 9 iron was 130 ish and PW was 125 ish. Ball position is crucial. I am about to purchase a new driver to replace my senior shafted 10 year old Adam's Red Line 9.5 degree driver. (Thinking an SMT beast with an extra stiff shaft. My dad hits his 12 degree SMT with a hockey shot about 225 and has gotten thrown off the gold tees at the age of 75, lol!) :laughing9

Yesterday, I was 14 over par counting every stroke. I had not touched my clubs since October's end when I shot an 89 at Hershey's East course with my buds. The greens were lightning fast and it took me several holes to believe the balls were flying as far as they were!

Now, all of Lynn's Address videos with and all the others make perfect sense! I can feel my weight fire to my front leg and am using my right arm powerfully as my right hip clears to my left pocket!

Thanks again Lynn!

http://youtu.be/LfdsXK06EGA

http://youtu.be/UIER-jwBqQk

http://youtu.be/iclf7SpLg_Y


http://youtu.be/sA9Fz28Zu2M

ICT

Etzwane 11-25-2011 03:09 PM

Good to hear from you again ! :salut:

innercityteacher 11-25-2011 03:31 PM

Great to be back!

Yoda 11-25-2011 10:57 PM

Homecoming King
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 88216)
Great to be back!

Welcome back, Patrick!

:salut:

KevCarter 11-26-2011 10:52 AM

Great to see your voice Patrick!

innercityteacher 01-09-2012 08:30 PM

What am I up to-cannot describe it accept...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 88245)
Great to see your voice Patrick!

...this morning I had four students I did not recognize jump in my room during 2nd period pretending to have guns trying to intimidate me. I do not know who they were and Mrs. S... was helping someone else on the other side of the floor. I called the office but there was no answer. I have no walkie.

This afternoon after 7th period, a student crawled into the ceiling and stood or knelt in the ceiling disturbing and resetting the tiles. The student left when I called the office on my cell phone to report it (I also picked up a wooden dowel and moved away from the tiles in case the student fell or jumped through them).

During advisory, a student assaulted me.

Four weeks ago, a fire was started and staged in room 320 across the hallway complete with accelerants (Pine Sol and boxes of wood and paper). With the help of the two janitors, we put the starter in a plastic bucket avoiding a fire which would've damaged the building possibly injuring or killing people.

Every day, Hallway # 2 reeks of pot.

Mrs. S... has partnered with me to move students along as soon as they try to congregate. She is a great lady and sometimes we have officer B....help us.

Why are all the school police on the first and second floor where we have cameras? Should we file a grievance with the union for the sake of the safety of the school and our fellow union members and student safety? The third floor is unsafe and unwatched.

Please advise.
:salut:


So have things gotten better? :rolleyes:

Hi. While talking with Mrs. S.... today and trading information, I was informed that she encounters several kids during the week who come from the third floor commons inner circle into the third floor hallways. She also mentioned smelling pot in several locations where no student or person seemed to be standing.

Our guess is students ride the ceiling like people ride the bus. They hide there, steal laptops, get high and jump into other rooms. That would explain why lights are on with all the doors locked when no one uses the rooms and other incidents we have had.

10 minutes ago I chased a student out of the hall who had put a pair of beige slacks in a locker. They are still there. he didn't think I knew which locker he used. It was the middle of the sixth period. I called several people to inform them.

I know the principal mentioned zip-lining the lockers on Friday after the ceiling incident. I think that is a good idea. I'm sure there are others. I would like a walkie to keep people informed of what is happening up here. I think a memo should be sent to all staff to give people a heads up. I will be happy to give service during a prep to help Mrs. Stevens on a daily basis.

I am worried about a ceiling fire, or a student falling through the ceiling and breaking their neck, or falling on staff or taking working laptops over a weekend. Mrs. S.... mentioned a series of robberies in the new townhouses built near 45th and Market using the same M.O. as th e houses were connected by a common duct-work system.

Thanks.



When I say that this is the hardest teaching post I have ever had, I am not kidding. How I long for Lynn and Cuscowilla and Green Haven and Gerrry's fine family and Kevin's great encouragements! :angel:

I am not getting married either! LOL!

ICT

KevCarter 01-09-2012 08:37 PM

Jeeeeeepers Man. Any chance of getting out of there next year? That really puts controlling a little white ball in a different context. I feel bad for you my friend!

Kevin

BerntR 01-10-2012 01:27 AM

WOW!

Some kind of challenge you have taken on, ICT!

:salut:

innercityteacher 01-10-2012 02:03 AM

Concentrating on Geometric Orientated Linear Force
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 89424)
WOW!

Some kind of challenge you have taken on, ICT!

:salut:

So, it is with great relish that I have been watching Ted Fort's Address video with Lynn where they discuss the hitter's s l o w bump to the front or left to get the right arm closer to the ball before unleashing the bent right wrist.

I feel as if I am slowly moving closer to the chaotic ignorance of my student culture here before unleashing my BRW of knowledge and civilization!

:laughing9


ICT

JerryG 01-10-2012 08:08 AM

Man, Patrick, what kind of frontier are you on? This is so sad to read.
Worse, I don't understand how the admin. and police don't do something about the ceiling traffic.
Be safe.

O.B.Left 01-10-2012 02:40 PM

Hey Patrick! Thanks for sharing your story, its great to see you back here.

innercityteacher 01-13-2012 01:55 PM

A new type of change?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 89438)
Hey Patrick! Thanks for sharing your story, its great to see you back here.

Thanks guys. You will recall that even the mighty Soviet Communist system had to fail in the contest with a democratic capitalist system where personal responsibility is a tried and true success for the majority of people.

I think Mayor Nutter is a moral guy trying to undo a corrupt city. I hope I am right.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...isal-shooting/

So much good can be done here with a little leadership. :read:

ICT

JerryG 01-13-2012 06:59 PM

I like the mayor's response. I'm thinking Daryl could be his assistant.

innercityteacher 03-04-2012 04:09 PM

Seeking Mechanical Advantages-How Far Down is Down?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryG (Post 89498)
I like the mayor's response. I'm thinking Daryl could be his assistant.

http://youtu.be/EDNCLchMYRI

At 1:27 into this film Lynn had finished showing the "release" or "throw" or "down" of the Swinger's Flail. Then, graciously, Lynn shows the Hitter's Flail. The "down" or "release" of the Hitter must benefit from being delayed since the force of the blow is carried closer to the ball as is the forward lean of the hands, so eloquently explained to me by Lynn, Kevin and Gerry.

To Hit effectively, It seemed as if Lynn fired "Down" as his hands got to his back foot and right elbow got to his side. Do the skilled Hitters in our group have a key or body location they employ to know when to fire down? :rolleyes:

Yesterday, my range practice with fatigued range balls seemed most effective when I slowly rolled my front shoulder up and almost horizontally fired my right hand to my left pant's pocket. The 8 iron flew with a high little 5 yard draw about 155 or so and sweet spot ripples of delight. (Perfect balance, too, thanks Lynn!)

Max distance however did not appear for other clubs including driver though everything had a draw and kept a solid flight line. So the ''Down" then of the Hit begins when? I understand why "over- acceleration" is really a problem missing where you might trigger the "Down." :naughty:

I had some success firing at the Plane Lane slightly before the ball with the driver dependably producing a high push and a big quacking 20 yard hook and roll shooting ahead of the teed ball by about an inch or so.

Am I getting warm?:read:

ICT

innercityteacher 03-05-2012 01:02 AM

New hitting insights based on

http://youtu.be/bTtEHWEZRrs

1) the hitter stays tall so the back shoulder stays against the plane
2) RFT puts the back shoulder and hands on plane
3) taking up the slack could be done by back leg push forward or by front heel lead but staying tall is key

4) my hands are chewed up because I forgot the Hogan correct grip (man does that Hydrogen peroxide sting)
5) the correct grip makes the forward swivel very easy along with hitting down giving lots of power and noise baton swoosh noise
6) "Right forearm on plane, stable lower body (quiet knees/quiet feet, extensor action" thanks Lynn!

http://youtu.be/HYfOw_7jCTA

Daryl 03-05-2012 08:36 AM

"back leg push forward", "Hogan correct grip" ?

Is that "Thinking Outside the Box" or simply "Thinking Outside the Book"?

innercityteacher 03-05-2012 11:49 PM

Hogan's Left Hand Grip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 90440)
"back leg push forward", "Hogan correct grip" ?

Is that "Thinking Outside the Box" or simply "Thinking Outside the Book"?

Akward expression, orthodox grip! :)

In Hitting, there is a bump forward, right. Does it matter how you shift the hip?

Or, does "quiet feet, quiet knees" mean no hip shift?


ICT

innercityteacher 03-06-2012 12:45 AM

The beauty of DOWN!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90433)
New hitting insights based on

http://youtu.be/bTtEHWEZRrs

1) the hitter stays tall so the back shoulder stays against the plane
2) RFT puts the back shoulder and hands on plane
3) taking up the slack could be done by back leg push forward or by front heel lead but staying tall is key

4) my hands are chewed up because I forgot the Hogan correct grip (man does that Hydrogen peroxide sting)
5) the correct grip makes the forward swivel very easy along with hitting down giving lots of power and noise baton swoosh noise
6) "Right forearm on plane, stable lower body (quiet knees/quiet feet, extensor action" thanks Lynn!

http://youtu.be/HYfOw_7jCTA


As I search for even greater Mechanical Advantages, I come across recurring themes like DOWN!

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ting#post56338

I want to Hit Down with my hands in a Both Arms Straight position well ahead of the club shaft! :golf:

ICT

innercityteacher 03-07-2012 10:38 PM

On the range 3/7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90463)
As I search for even greater Mechanical Advantages, I come across recurring themes like DOWN!

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ting#post56338

I want to Hit Down with my hands in a Both Arms Straight position well ahead of the club shaft! :golf:

ICT

2 club wind into me while attempting to Hit. My struggle was to get to Both Arms Straight! :golfing_banana:

I adopted the following video as my model:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo& Itemid=85&video_id=122


Amazingly, as I put my "Right Forearm on Plane with quiet knees and feet" and used my RFT, I found myself putting all my pressure points behind the club's extension and swiveling to an "Arrow pointing at the ear" without conscious thought.

Cold range balls into the wind on a rope with a driver past the 200 yard marker on the fly (maybe 210) and a nice fish-hook and "bzzzzzz" with irons.

I feel the stretch of the RFT in the front shoulder, stretch the arms and shoulder more fully with the shift of the front hip (my plastic artificial hip), and then I fire my right arm fully with a feel that my left hip is the pivot or sling of the back or right elbow. I finish with 90% of my weight on my front foot.

Driver has a nice deep thunk and irons go "crack!" :)


ICT

JerryG 03-08-2012 12:47 AM

I love reading stuff like this, Patrick. Congratulations.
I'm working on so many different things and all seem to work compared to where I was. Man, we gotta get to a course soon.

innercityteacher 03-08-2012 01:06 AM

"Silly Rabbit Moment" # 3654
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryG (Post 90494)
I love reading stuff like this, Patrick. Congratulations.
I'm working on so many different things and all seem to work compared to where I was. Man, we gotta get to a course soon.

Thanks Gerry, You are right. I just realized that what I was feeling was my right wrist rotating down the Face of the Plane into the Forward Swivel and up to Both Arms Straight and then to Finish as the hips slide and right arm straightens!

Precision Alignments! So cool! Like Minnesota and Wisconsin, Illinois and Cuscowilla!

ICT

innercityteacher 03-09-2012 10:57 PM

On the range 3/8
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90495)
Thanks Gerry, You are right. I just realized that what I was feeling was my right wrist rotating down the Face of the Plane into the Forward Swivel and up to Both Arms Straight and then to Finish as the hips slide and right arm straightens!

Precision Alignments! So cool! Like Minnesota and Wisconsin, Illinois and Cuscowilla!

ICT

4 club wind dead into the hitting bays. Very comfortable with RFT. Using it exclusively.

"Dragging the mop" for a Hitting motion to both Arms Straight produces a very steep, high flight that just keeps climbing in the breeze and actually turns over. The RFT to a "frozen" position and held to my side as I Pivot on my left heel straight down ala the Ben Hogan video.

http://youtu.be/G4DCZuAj5Mg

That motion produces a slowly rising, low trajectory, penetrating flight that is very straight.

A third motion starts with RFT and reverses with my right knee moving to about 11 on a clock face driving the right hip and shoulder Throwing Out the right arm and spinning the right hand down the plane. That produce a high draw as well. :)

The ball position in all cases is never forward of my Mid-Body and feels as if I am striking straight down!

ICT

innercityteacher 03-13-2012 12:25 AM

Ball Position Explanation of what I do
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90546)
4 club wind dead into the hitting bays. Very comfortable with RFT. Using it exclusively.

"Dragging the mop" for a Hitting motion to both Arms Straight produces a very steep, high flight that just keeps climbing in the breeze and actually turns over. The RFT to a "frozen" position and held to my side as I Pivot on my left heel straight down ala the Ben Hogan video.

http://youtu.be/G4DCZuAj5Mg

That motion produces a slowly rising, low trajectory, penetrating flight that is very straight.

A third motion starts with RFT and reverses with my right knee moving to about 11 on a clock face driving the right hip and shoulder Throwing Out the right arm and spinning the right hand down the plane. That produce a high draw as well. :)

The ball position in all cases is never forward of my Mid-Body and feels as if I am striking straight down!

ICT



Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 9,606
Drawing The Ball
Originally Posted by JohnThomas1
So maybe i can hit a natural draw with the hitting stroke simply by playing it back a bit?

Yoda's Response

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John
Yes, John, you can produce a 'natural Draw' when Hitting (or 'Manipulated Hands' Swinging) simply by playing the Ball back a bit -- provided you (1) align the Clubface Closed to the Flight Line per 2-J-1 and (2) Rotate your Grip per 7-2. You can do the same thing as a True Swinger by Rotating your Plane Line. Opposite procedures are employed to Fade the Ball.
And 12 Piece observed something I might be doing with my square /open stance and my RFT


Quote:

I've got a copy of an instruction book Lee Buck wrote. It's now out of print. He actually advises closing the clubface at address. I would say based on what he said in his book that he played from a 10-5-B Square-Open stance. He said he intentionally took it back outside the Target Line but then his Downstroke was down the target line. He said by doing this he had the clubface looking at the target longer than anybody in golf.

Also, he played with what looks like to me a 10-2-D grip. Mr. K says with this grip "The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exacly like a paddle-wheel rotating On-Plane - no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact." This is Angled Hinging. Lee described himself as a "blocker" on his Golf Channel thing.

Check out the post that Yoda did on the Impact Bag. Look at the picture of Lee post impact. No rolling there. If you can find any swing sequences on Lee, his Backstroke is definitely to Top and not End. Watch how his Right Forearm Wedge stays solid and how his Right Shoulder is driven down plane. Check out follow through. In 1-L, "The Club starts up-and-in after "Low Point" but the thrust continues Down Plane during Follow-Through." Not many got this better than Lee Buck.
and OB Left said this:


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In both Hitting and Swinging the Left Hand lays flat on the Inclined Plane at Top. You can Drive Load from there for sure. Drive LOAD, Load the Right Elbow and the non rotated lag pressure point, the index finger. Load it and then sneak it down to its Delayed Release point and them blammo. Right Arm Throw a side armed throwing motion at the Aiming Point. Like skipping stones it'll feel more cross line than Tracing. The Thrusting on the aft you mention does push the Left Hand off the Inclined Plane #3 firing and #2 as well at the same time.
ICT

innercityteacher 03-13-2012 10:05 AM

In my neighborhood last night...from The Daily news (2 teens on ATV die in a hail of bullets

BY MORGAN ZALOT

Daily News Staff Writer)

Updated at 8:15 a.m. Tuesday.
Quote:

A JOYRIDE through North Philadelphia on what police said was a stolen four-wheeler turned deadly for two teenage boys last night, when they were mowed down in a hail of gunfire from an AK-47 assault rifle on a narrow block in the city's Fairhill section.

Cops said the boys. who lived in the neighborhood, were riding an all-terrain vehicle stolen from upstate Pennsylvania on 9th Street near Cambria when automatic-weapon gunfire erupted just before 8 p.m.

The victims were identified this morning as Dexter Bowie, 17, of the 3000 block of North 8th Street, and Johnathan Stokley, 18, of the 3100 block of Darien Street.

Chief Inspector Scott Small said at least 30 shots were fired from the fully automatic weapon, some of which also hit three houses on the block. The ATV also was struck by gunfire, cops said, and was held on the block as part of the crime scene.

Investigators said Bowie was hit several times in the head and leg. Police took him to Temple University Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 8:10 p.m., police said.

Stokley was hit several times throughout his body, cops said.

Medics took him to Temple University Hospital, where he succumbed to his wounds at 8:24 p.m.

Small said no bystanders were injured, and police didn't know what sparked the gunfire.

Police had no suspects in the shooting last night, but one witness was taken in by homicide detectives to be interviewed.

Cops found no surveillance cameras in the area.

Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey arrived about 9 p.m. at the scene, where blood and about 30 shell casings marked where the teens had been gunned down.

The teens were among six people shot in the city as of 11 last night. They were the day's second and third fatal victims of gun violence, and the 68th and 69th murder victims of 2012. By March 11 last year, the city had 75 homicide victims.
We really need a First Tee program but I hear an AK 47 can shoot up to one mile . :confused1

innercityteacher 03-13-2012 12:03 PM

BATMAN

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...6208#post26208

Quote:

On this one, though, we don't quite see eye-to-eye. Bending the Left Arm does not negate a Left Arm Stroke and cause its Center to be transferred to the Right Elbow. Instead, a bending Left Arm most likely means a Left Arm Stroke that has inadvertantly lost its Maximum Swing Radius. The solution to that problem is the Extensor Action (6-B-1-D) and the precision Left Shoulder-to-Ball Address Routine of 2-J-1.

The Right Elbow Center is just what it says. Namely, you Hit (or Swing per the last paragraph) from the Elbow itself. It is a Stiff-Wristed "Batting" Motion with the Right Arm Driving the Club and with the Elbow serving as the Center of the Motion.

The Minor Basic Stroke that employs this Transferred Center is The Bat (10-3-K). With its Right Arm Drive, Rigid Right Wrist and Angled Club Extension, the usually mandatory Flat Left Wrist is now helpful but not essential. Hence, a tip-off to its use is the ability to hit hard with a slightly Bent Left Wrist at Impact and even to throw the Club in-line with the Right Arm during the Follow-through.

Also, per my post above, using The Bat with loosened Wrists per 7-19 and with Longitudinal Acceleration (the Club being Pulled from the Top lengthwise by the Right Arm) per 7-19-3, will produce the Right Arm Swing with its Center at the Right Elbow.
So then, when I use RFT and lock/stiffen all the elements of my bent right arm, my Pivot is controlling the BAT. Am I batting? (Yes, I can be "batty." No argument).

Is this what Steve Stricker does so well?

ICT

innercityteacher 03-13-2012 12:47 PM

More hitting clarity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90589)
BATMAN

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...6208#post26208



So then, when I use RFT and lock/stiffen all the elements of my bent right arm, my Pivot is controlling the BAT. Am I batting? (Yes, I can be "batty." No argument).

Is this what Steve Stricker does so well?

ICT


Ok Basic Hitting according to Yoda

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...hlight=release



Quote:

In the Hitter's Basic Stroke Pattern (12-1-0), three Accumulators -- #1 (Right Elbow), #2 (Left Wrist) and #3 (Left Hand) -- are driven through only two Pressure Points -- #1 (the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb) and #3 (the meaty part of the right forefinger where it contacts the back of the Clubshaft).

During the Start Down, Hitters use the Pivot in conjunction with the Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top to Drive Load (10-19-A) the entire Primary Lever Assembly (the Left Arm and Club) against Pressure Points #1 and #3. Since the Right Elbow is directly behind and supporting this Assembly (6-B-3-0-1), it is likewise Loaded (6-H-0-E #5). This Loaded Lag Pressure with the full support of the Right Forearm and Elbow is then Delivered Down Plane with absolutely no change whatever in the Pressure.

During the Downstroke and Release, the Right Arm drives the Left Arm through Pressure Point #1 (10-11-0-1). Simultaneously, the Right Arm also drives the Clubshaft through Pressure Point #3 (6-C-2-C). Thus, the active drive of the Uncocking Right Elbow (7-1 and 6-B-3-A) against the #3 Pressure Point (10-11-0-3) both Uncocks the Left Wrist (7-3) and Rolls the Left Hand (6-B-3-0). Because Pressure Point #2 (the last three fingers of the Left Hand) is not used to actuate the Left Wrist, its function is reduced to merely holding the Club.

Swingers, however, utilize three Pressure Points when using a Three Accumulator Stroke. Power Accumulator #4 (the Left Arm) is Loaded by the Pivot against Pressure Point #4 (where the Left Arm contacts the side), and this Drag Loading Action (10-19-C) Loads the Secondary Lever Assembly (the Clubshaft only) via the Left Wrist (6-H-0-F #5) through Pressure Point #2. However, this does not result in an active drive of the Clubshaft because Centrifugal Force alone powers the Club (10-11-0). This 'Passive Clubhead Lag' (10-11-0-2) -- the Clubshaft being Pulled lengthwise directly toward the Plane Line (6-C-2-A) -- sets up the Centrifugal chain reaction (6-M-1) that ultimately pulls the Clubhead into its In Line condition (6-C-0-4) of Full Extension (2-P).

In a Maximum Power Pivot Stroke, the Hitter also will use the Pivot to load Pressure Point #4 (as opposed to a Three Accumulator Stroke wherein the Right Shoulder simply provides motion in the Start Down and then acts as the backstop for the driving Right Arm in Release). In which case, there will be a Four Accumulator Stroke. However, the Swinger is best advised to use a Three Accumulator maximum because any attempt to use the Right Arm -- other than to Trace with the Clubhead Lag Pressure and for Extensor Action and its support (through Pressure Point #1) of the Left Arm's Pull of the Clubshaft (not a Powering of the Clubshaft itself) -- will conflict with the Stroke's Centrifugal drive and actually result in a Power Loss, not a Power Gain.

innercityteacher 03-13-2012 01:13 PM

Interesting

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1069&highlight=Bat+stroke#post106 9

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Joe,

For some of the short shots in the video Tom uses a full sweep release where the emphasis is on manually releasing the right elbow at the beginning of the downstroke (for short shots), one could call that a bat type of stroke.

Yes, Tom pulled the club longitudinally with the right forearm in addition to the left forearm, emphasis on the right....if you go to the quiver demonstration in the 40 to 45 minute mark....Tom clearly demonstates the pulling action with the right arm....it's one smooth motion, the club is released by pivot action and the accelerating right arm goes to a long right arm...

What Tom taught was not a hitting action...it's a swinging action with right arm acceleration....two different animals. It's one smooth motion....not two. The right forearm accelerates the club down with an even rhythm....that's why the golfers who understand how works produce smooth golf swings, yet powerful golf swings.

DG
But Yoda has this.

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1069&highlight=Bat+stroke#post106 9

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Left Arm Swing is accelerating the Golf Club Longitudinally, i.e., lengthwise in the direction the butt end is pointing, with the Left Arm and usually with Body Momentum Transfer per 2-K.

Right Arm Swing is accelerating the Golf Club Longitudinally with the Right Arm -- always with neglible benefit from Body Momentum Transfer.

Neither can be the other.

Never ever.
So then my question is what exactly is the swing called where you start your Pivot down and manually fire the right arm down?

innercityteacher 03-13-2012 02:08 PM

Less fog more 4 Accumulator Hitting bartender!
 
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90591)
Interesting

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1069&highlight=Bat+stroke#post106 9



But Yoda has this.

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1069&highlight=Bat+stroke#post106 9



So then my question is what exactly is the swing called where you start your Pivot down and manually fire the right arm down?

OK, I'm back in focus! :golfcart:

I feel like I have so much more confidence since seeing Lynn and understanding how important hips and grips are. I feel like the MacDonald drills really emphasize correct motions. With the correct grip, and understanding the Flail and RFT, anything, even Four Accumulator hitting is possible! That is my new goal. :golf:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56165&highlight=tomasello#post561 65

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That said, my first conversation with Homer Kelley was by telephone in June1980. There were three people on that call: Homer, Tom Tomasello and me. Two ofthose three are now dead, and listening to the stilled voices on the tape wemade has been a primary driver for my posts over the past six weeks. I feel atremendous responsibility and sense of mission to share with you what I havelearned.

On that call -- which I have transcribed for this post word-for-word -- is whatHomer Kelley emphatically said about the 4-barrel Swing:

"The idea of using a Four Accumulator Swing is extemely difficult, and Iwould say totally inadvisable. It can be done...maybe somebody candevelop a skill...enough skill to handle it...but I wouldn't teach it to anybody...theFour Accumulator Swing."

"I would teach a Four Accumulator Hitting because you can use theRight Shoulder Turn for Acceleration in Hitting, too. But...Hitting andSwinging do not mix. They simply to do not mix."

Three weeks or so ago -- time is rolling on here! -- I said I would post areply to DG's well-reasoned post on how he would transition a 3-Barrel Swingerto a 4-Barrel Swinger. The subject of my pending post is how to transitionto a 4-Barrel Hitter, which I feel, based on my work with Homer andmy understanding of TGM, is more advisable for those who would pursue thepinnacle of the Four Accumulator Stroke. I wrote the first draft of that postalmost immediately but time demands have prevented the final polish. At theconclusion of the Hinge and Magical Right Forearm Classes, I will revisit thisarea.

It is ripe for exploration -- "A ball of fun" said Homer --for all serious students of The Golfing Machine.
ICT

innercityteacher 03-13-2012 10:03 PM

Short thumb + Mid Body hands + MacDonald Drills = Longer Drives
 
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90593)
OK, I'm back in focus! :golfcart:

I feel like I have so much more confidence since seeing Lynn and understanding how important hips and grips are. I feel like the MacDonald drills really emphasize correct motions. With the correct grip, and understanding the Flail and RFT, anything, even Four Accumulator hitting is possible! That is my new goal. :golf:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56165&highlight=tomasello#post561 65



ICT

Short thumb/Hogan grip starting with the left index finger last joint allows right elbow to ride up my right side as I Pivot and "snap" as I Pivot down producing a much more penetrating and faster ball flight. The ball disappears much more quickly and the Apex of my Swing and Hitting procedure with range balls was consistently, more than 10 tries, well past the 200 yard markers! Woo hoo! :golfcart:


I can see a large difference between the flight of an Angle Hinge and Horizontal Hinge work in height of distance and turning over versus dropping to the right! So cool!:golf:

ICT

innercityteacher 03-15-2012 03:43 PM

Silly Rabbit Moment # 4000 -Ball position
 
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90601)
Short thumb/Hogan grip starting with the left index finger last joint allows right elbow to ride up my right side as I Pivot and "snap" as I Pivot down producing a much more penetrating and faster ball flight. The ball disappears much more quickly and the Apex of my Swing and Hitting procedure with range balls was consistently, more than 10 tries, well past the 200 yard markers! Woo hoo! :golfcart:


I can see a large difference between the flight of an Angle Hinge and Horizontal Hinge work in height of distance and turning over versus dropping to the right! So cool!:golf:

ICT

I just found this quote and it made so much sense I was dumbfounded.

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The rotation in the downswing "Duval like" does not allow the overtaking of the right arm. Angled hinging is a neccesity for hitters. The pushing of the right arm closes the clubface.
When you play with a turned grip for too long, you'll always try to fight off the left shot with rotation. Those are mismatched components and are sometimes mistaken for clubhead lag.
The quote was by Ted Fort regarding Hitting and is found here:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread192-2.html

With the proper short thumb grip, Hitting from Impact Fix (a slight opening of the front hip), or Swinging, the ball position should determine a whole heck of a lot!

Off to the range will report later! :salut:

ICT

innercityteacher 03-15-2012 09:35 PM

Range report-It's a hit!
 
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90638)
I just found this quote and it made so much sense I was dumbfounded.



The quote was by Ted Fort regarding Hitting and is found here:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread192-2.html

With the proper short thumb grip, Hitting from Impact Fix (a slight opening of the front hip), or Swinging, the ball position should determine a whole heck of a lot!

Off to the range will report later! :salut:

ICT

Impact Fix-front hip open/RFT- blade is closed/elbow comes straight down driving and compressing! The ball does not dream of looking left! Ball at middle of stance or forward. Draws happen with ball back of middle.

Swinging is better too as I pivot up to the front toe of front foot! Felt a very strong wrist cock at top and saw increased DOWN asI followed the MacDonald drill moving feet! Ball leaps off the club (short thumb). :)

ICT

innercityteacher 03-19-2012 10:30 PM

Silly rabbit moment # 4003
 
:read:
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90649)
Impact Fix-front hip open/RFT- blade is closed/elbow comes straight down driving and compressing! The ball does not dream of looking left! Ball at middle of stance or forward. Draws happen with ball back of middle.

Swinging is better too as I pivot up to the front toe of front foot! Felt a very strong wrist cock at top and saw increased DOWN asI followed the MacDonald drill moving feet! Ball leaps off the club (short thumb). :)

ICT

My new favorite video!

Homer Kelly's greatest hits!

lways points at the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other."

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However.. 2-F PLANE OF MOTION All the action of the Golf Club takes place on a flat, inflexible, Inclined Plane which extends well beyond the circumference of the stroke - in every direction. The full length of the Clubshaft remains unwavering on the face of this Inclined Plane - Waggle to Follow-through. Every other Component of the Stroke must be adjusted to comply with that requirement. (Bold by Weighshift)

Step in at Right Angles to the line right forearm on Plane-Delivery Line Prep -Do you see it? Are you prepared to un-cock on that line? Are you prepared to roll on that line?

http://youtu.be/vVx6DPCIhd8

Plane line, stability, extensor action!

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The Start Down is the period of Shoulder Acceleration (8-7) as led by the Hips (7-15) and their "Instant" Acceleration (10-19-C). The Downstroke is the period of Hand Acceleration (8-8 ).

So smooth and so powerful, time and time again with a correct grip! I do have a question though for Hitting. When I shift to move my shoulder closer to the Base line of the Plane, do I fire at the line when I reach my low point? :confused:

Answer?

http://youtu.be/rpdyB_bea-k

Monitor the Delivery Path of the Hands or Trace the base Line of the Plane. :read:

ICT

innercityteacher 03-22-2012 09:14 PM

JB Homes please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90680)
:read:

My new favorite video!

Homer Kelly's greatest hits!

lways points at the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other."



Step in at Right Angles to the line right forearm on Plane-Delivery Line Prep -Do you see it? Are you prepared to un-cock on that line? Are you prepared to roll on that line?

http://youtu.be/vVx6DPCIhd8

Plane line, stability, extensor action!




So smooth and so powerful, time and time again with a correct grip! I do have a question though for Hitting. When I shift to move my shoulder closer to the Base line of the Plane, do I fire at the line when I reach my low point? :confused:

Answer?

http://youtu.be/rpdyB_bea-k

Monitor the Delivery Path of the Hands or Trace the base Line of the Plane. :read:

ICT

I think this is a type of Hitting/"Crap Smacking" /Lynn with the Impact Bag type of deal but with the proper short thumb grip, covering the Base Line of the Plane with the club with my back elbow always in front of my body and club decidedly closed, I can step and fire my right arm to my left big toe shooting to Both Arms straight well ahead of the Ball! :read:

I think I am using a "bat stroke" and I hit a sand wedge 105 yards consistently tonight. Driver bounced for the first time at 230 yards and seemed to stay in the air forever.

I felt like I was doing this:

http://youtu.be/cbd3hqj6vEo


and this:

http://youtu.be/iCWUyW0cN-w

with all my pressure points behind the shaft!

It seemed when I straightened my back leg then pivoted on my front heel before shooting my hands straight I might have been using all my stuff! I felt like I only took the club back to parallel with the ground then just shot my arms through!

ICT

innercityteacher 03-24-2012 03:06 AM

Silly rabbit moment # 4004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90707)
I think this is a type of Hitting/"Crap Smacking" /Lynn with the Impact Bag type of deal but with the proper short thumb grip, covering the Base Line of the Plane with the club with my back elbow always in front of my body and club decidedly closed, I can step and fire my right arm to my left big toe shooting to Both Arms straight well ahead of the Ball! :read:

I think I am using a "bat stroke" and I hit a sand wedge 105 yards consistently tonight. Driver bounced for the first time at 230 yards and seemed to stay in the air forever.

I felt like I was doing this:

http://youtu.be/cbd3hqj6vEo


and this:

http://youtu.be/iCWUyW0cN-w

with all my pressure points behind the shaft!

It seemed when I straightened my back leg then pivoted on my front heel before shooting my hands straight I might have been using all my stuff! I felt like I only took the club back to parallel with the ground then just shot my arms through!

ICT

Look, look, look! I work hard as many of you do on this hobby and yesterday my prayers for clarity were answered in a big way? :golfing_banana:

Look carefully at the banana! It's head is stationary through impact!

Watching Lynn and Mr. Saunders and Kathy swing or hit was weird my friends. From far away, you could only see the slightest movements and their head was so quiet and the ball fired like a rocket! :idea1:

Inverse relationships anyone? The Tripod must be still for the club to shoot down-plane like a Nordic bobsled, Air. :read:

Short thumb grip. Quiet hands, feet and knees but not perfectly still, get it? I do now. Why does the MacDonald feet together drill work for everyone? Buehler? Anyone? Because the head is stationary and the torso is quietly, slightly, moving compared to my lurching, hulking basic efforts. Less is way more times 1000! :happy3: :exclaim:

I can and will prove this upon your persons ( Le Morte D'Artur).

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2447&highlight=stationary+head#po st2447


LOOK!

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At Start Down, leave your Hands and Right Shoulder at The Top -- they don't move! -- as your Hips move ever so slightly to the Left. Feel the Hip Action Lead as the Right Shoulder Lags and Extensor Action Stretches. This magnificent combination totally removes any left side 'slack.' If there is a Master Move in Golf, this is it.

While checking your Extensor Action visually, also note mentally every 'detectable, distinguishable Feel' the Action produces (3-B). Just as important, become aware of its contrasting Feel, i.e., Extensor Action OFF. In each Section, On...Off. On...Off.

Finally, remember that there are two ways you train Educated Hands: Eyes Open and Eyes Shut. So, complete the process with Closed Eyes.

Do this exercise -- and believe me, it can be a workout! -- for a few minutes every day. Give it your complete, concentrated attention, and you will soon note a new structure and consistency in your Golf Stroke. It will be Extensor Action Feel doing its job, operating invisibly to take your Game to the next level.

My club has never moved faster with Swings or Hits! If my head is set at Impact Fix or between the feet equidistant for the Swing, I can watch the greased lightening of the shot go down through the ball and be pulled to finish!

I want the decoder ring! :) :read:


Just for giggles!

http://youtu.be/GaaDJ6xq4nY

ICT

innercityteacher 03-24-2012 03:00 PM

Impact fix + stable head= 2 clubs more!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90724)
Look, look, look! I work hard as many of you do on this hobby and yesterday my prayers for clarity were answered in a big way? :golfing_banana:

Look carefully at the banana! It's head is stationary through impact!

Watching Lynn and Mr. Saunders and Kathy swing or hit was weird my friends. From far away, you could only see the slightest movements and their head was so quiet and the ball fired like a rocket! :idea1:

Inverse relationships anyone? The Tripod must be still for the club to shoot down-plane like a Nordic bobsled, Air. :read:

Short thumb grip. Quiet hands, feet and knees but not perfectly still, get it? I do now. Why does the MacDonald feet together drill work for everyone? Buehler? Anyone? Because the head is stationary and the torso is quietly, slightly, moving compared to my lurching, hulking basic efforts. Less is way more times 1000! :happy3: :exclaim:

I can and will prove this upon your persons ( Le Morte D'Artur).

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2447&highlight=stationary+head#po st2447


LOOK!



My club has never moved faster with Swings or Hits! If my head is set at Impact Fix or between the feet equidistant for the Swing, I can watch the greased lightening of the shot go down through the ball and be pulled to finish!

I want the decoder ring! :) :read:


Just for giggles!

http://youtu.be/GaaDJ6xq4nY

ICT

Quick update. 4 pars on front including a 421 par 4 and 4 pars on back on a par 71 for an 89. Three trips and 4 doubles due to an errant tee shot and airmailing three greens with 100 yard plus sand wedges or really long 8 and 9 irons like 140 yard 9's and 150 yard 8"s. Temp 60 degrees and spotty showers!

Nutted the ball Hitting quite often. No putting skills and moderate chips but putting is coming.




ICT

innercityteacher 04-03-2012 07:52 PM

On the range 4/3/12
 
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90725)
Quick update. 4 pars on front including a 421 par 4 and 4 pars on back on a par 71 for an 89. Three trips and 4 doubles due to an errant tee shot and airmailing three greens with 100 yard plus sand wedges or really long 8 and 9 irons like 140 yard 9's and 150 yard 8"s. Temp 60 degrees and spotty showers!

Nutted the ball Hitting quite often. No putting skills and moderate chips but putting is coming.

ICT

Head stuck against the wall and hands back on shoulder plane with slight push or drop the elbow and feel the hands whip through Ball goes straight with nice trajectory! Short thumb! Mid-body hands MacDonald moves freely beneath a stationary head! Ball position is always at my left hip! Runion putting and chips close in or elbow plane.

It is ok to even feel like I am looking at my right shoulder in practice to guarantee the imaginary wall so the vertical un-cocking of the left wrist can fire DOWN! It can even be a right elbow drop or a subtle push of PP # 3 down the plane! If I monitor the swinging of the hands, the hands must be thrown at the left foot! Swing the pen knife tied to the handkerchief!

Hitting works very well if head and shoulder remains at Impact Fix pressed against the wall. Fire the # 3 pressure point ball at left hip let the club catch the hands and fully straighten the left arm!

Thanks Lynn, Kevin, Gerry, Daryl, OB everyone! :laughing9

ICT

innercityteacher 04-04-2012 12:06 AM

Found the post matching the feel!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 90790)
Head stuck against the wall and hands back on shoulder plane with slight push or drop the elbow and feel the hands whip through Ball goes straight with nice trajectory! Short thumb! Mid-body hands MacDonald moves freely beneath a stationary head! Ball position is always at my left hip! Runion putting and chips close in or elbow plane.

It is ok to even feel like I am looking at my right shoulder in practice to guarantee the imaginary wall so the vertical un-cocking of the left wrist can fire DOWN! It can even be a right elbow drop or a subtle push of PP # 3 down the plane! If I monitor the swinging of the hands, the hands must be thrown at the left foot! Swing the pen knife tied to the handkerchief!

Hitting works very well if head and shoulder remains at Impact Fix pressed against the wall. Fire the # 3 pressure point ball at left hip let the club catch the hands and fully straighten the left arm!

Thanks Lynn, Kevin, Gerry, Daryl, OB everyone! :laughing9

ICT




The stationary head by Lynn Blake- I felt this today! :read: :exclaim:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56309&highlight=stationary+head#p ost56309


GolfCatty,

The correct Head position is established at Impact Fix (8-2; 7-. Oncedetermined, the Head should remain Stationary (the First Essential per2-0-A-1 and 1-L-1). Monitor your Impact Fix Head Location carefully. It willprobably be somewhat lower than your present position.

Most players do not maintain the Stationary Head. In fact, manyinstructors even advise that it should move off the Ball (to the right)as part of the Backstroke and Weightshift. Of course, that simply is not thecase for those who have trained themselves to execute the precision alignmentsof The Golfing Machine.

In addition to an improper Head position at Fix, and in many cases because ofit, the Machine is also vulnerable to the third and fourth Snares,Bobbing (3-F-7-C) and Swaying (3-F-7-D). Bobbing's henchman isthe faulty movement of the back or Knees (the Anchors per 7-16), while Swayingrelies on an incorrect weight shift due to a faulty Pivot. Study the sixPivot Components of Zone #1 (9-1) and Translate (per Chapter 3) their Mechanicsas quickly as possible into Identifiable Feels (Introduction). Per 1-L, "...masteryof the Pivot is so essential for good Golf."

Finally, monitor the position of the back at Address. Per 7-9:

"The back should be straight from the neck down--not rounded at thewaist. It is easier to control the rotation of a straight rod than a bentone."


More bonus coverage-this is the HOW TO!

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3089&highlight=stationary+head#po st3089

innercityteacher 04-04-2012 12:22 AM

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I am on vacation with only a lawn to mow and a honey-baked ham to purchase so check this out!


You hear less about 'leg drive' today than you did in the '70s and '80s. Butwhen these pictures were taken, leg drive was The Way to create Power --on the PGA Tour and on the public links.

Despite The Way's popularity, The Truth was -- and is -- asHomer's analysis suggests: Most 'leg drivers' begin their Start Down byshuttling their knees forward in an exaggerated fashion. This causes the Kneesto Bend beyond their Impact Fix degree of Bend, lowering the Head and with it,the Left Shoulder Center of the Stroke. This faulty move is Bobbing, theThird Snare (3-F-7-C), and unless there is a compensation by Impact, thedisruption in the Left Shoulder-to-Ball Radius will produce disastrousresults.

In my schools at that time, I illustrated these concepts using swing sequencesof Jerry Pate , the Poster Child for the exaggerated Downstroke KneeBend and its resultant lowered Head position. The necessary compensations(2-J-1) to shorten the suddenly too-long Radius (Left Arm and Club) -- namely,the bending of the Left Arm and the pulling back of the Left Shoulderat Impact -- were in full flower. I don't believe it coincidental thatJerry's career was cut much too short by injury -- specifically, Left Shoulderinjury.

In a Pivot Stroke, the geometrically correct Start Down is led by the Left HipSlide. This tilts the Axis of the Stroke (the Spine), and allows the RightShoulder to deliver the Loaded Power Package correctly Downplane into Impact.The Knees serve as Anchors (7-16) during this process, stabilizing The Machineby maintaing its Pivot Center, the Stationary Head.

What I wouldn't give to have known then what I know now...
http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56106&highlight=stationary+head#p ost56106

ICT


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