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O.B.Left 12-31-2011 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 89232)


How beautiful is that right forearm flying wedge????

Yup.

What about Tiger then Bucket? How's he going to Release from there? I see a Right Arm throw from him these days in some videos . Might be wrong though. Sure looks a like an effortful right arm though . Not just Extensor Action, nope.

Has Tiger got another layer added to his 3 layer dip?

Different grips , different hands to plane ......different right arm throws but maybe they're both 4B hitting? Tigers in a different position with his elbow, his #1 pp isn't looking at the ball i don't think. Hmmm.

I dunno.

whip 12-31-2011 07:47 PM

Haha 3 layer dip, nice. Sounds like taco bell

HungryBear 01-01-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 89232)
....but one thing to be attentive to...it is the SWEETSPOT THAT IS BEING DRIVEN OUT OUT OUT TO THE BALL....NOT YOUR HANDS PER SAY....AS SOON AS THE HANDS "FLEE" THE CLUBHEAD/SWEETSPOT WANTS TO LAY DOWN AND YOU HAVE JUST MIXED PROCEDURES AND TURNED YOUR SIMULTANEOUS RELEASE INTO A SEQUENCED RELEASE....AND JACKED UP THE LOADING....

???

Can You please direct me to clarity on the above quote?

Thanks.

I do want to note that AP has instructed that {the club is PULLED down with the left hand not pushed}

You do know that I have found NO physics contribution to the golf swing made by the "sweetspot". Only its contribution at impact.



HB

O.B.Left 01-01-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whip (Post 89245)
Haha 3 layer dip, nice. Sounds like taco bell

OOps didn't mean the Snare type dip. Was just thinking about three accumulators with Thrusting added , making for four. Not sure though. Bucket always makes me think about food for some reason. Fried chicken , ribs, pulled pork , heck pushed pork even you name it.

12 piece bucket 01-01-2012 06:03 PM

duplicate post sorry

12 piece bucket 01-01-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 89265)
Can You please direct me to clarity on the above quote?

Thanks.

I do want to note that AP has instructed that {the club is PULLED down with the left hand not pushed}

You do know that I have found NO physics contribution to the golf swing made by the "sweetspot". Only its contribution at impact.


HB



Sure...imagine if you stand the shaft up vertical and then move the hand "right" or "toward the plane line"...the shaft is going to "lay down" and the clubhead will "fall behind" and the face will "lay on the plane" more...all Swinging "moves"...


You can see it here....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuYp_f8JdPQ

Furyk drops from vertical to "on the inclined plane"...but if you are already on the inclined plane and your hands move "out and away from you" you can have the sweetspot falling underneath and shift the plane/plane line out to the right...plus since we are discussing Hitting...this can change the loading procedure unintentionally...

If you arch your left wrist like Palmer...it's probably gonna feel like a pull...Trevino said the same thing...but now question they have the right foream aligned to Hit and are Driving the sweetspot out rather than pulling...in my opinion...heck Furky "feels like" he swings the club like everybody else.....feel ain't real...real is real.

[You do know that I have found NO physics contribution to the golf swing made by the "sweetspot". Only its contribution at impact.


I have no idea what that means...can you explain?

HungryBear 01-01-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 89268)
Sure...imagine if you stand the shaft up vertical and then move the hand "right" or "toward the plane line"...the shaft is going to "lay down" and the clubhead will "fall behind" and the face will "lay on the plane" more...all Swinging "moves"...


You can see it here....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuYp_f8JdPQ

Furyk drops from vertical to "on the inclined plane"...but if you are already on the inclined plane and your hands move "out and away from you" you can have the sweetspot falling underneath and shift the plane/plane line out to the right...plus since we are discussing Hitting...this can change the loading procedure unintentionally...

If you arch your left wrist like Palmer...it's probably gonna feel like a pull...Trevino said the same thing...but now question they have the right foream aligned to Hit and are Driving the sweetspot out rather than pulling...in my opinion...heck Furky "feels like" he swings the club like everybody else.....feel ain't real...real is real.

[You do know that I have found NO physics contribution to the golf swing made by the "sweetspot". Only its contribution at impact.


I have no idea what that means...can you explain?

thanks Bucket;

I have thought of AP as a swinger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tWrTCRBOQw

who , because of elbow at the side, and, and, because he has very little #3 accumulator(little #2 at impact) he has a broad sweeping release(big pully) the opposite extreme of TW.

AP said to pull down in his and Chris Schenkels 2 lp instruction album of the 60's

The "sweet spot" ref. is -see my Lab Thread below- I do not see any physics that are sweet spot controled. The left hand is controling for clubface and putting the face on the ball is a computer learned event. This subject deserves conversation because I believe "sweet spot" is not what it is thought to be or do.

HB

12 piece bucket 01-01-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HungryBear (Post 89275)
thanks Bucket;

I have thought of AP as a swinger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tWrTCRBOQw

who , because of elbow at the side, and, and, because he has very little #3 accumulator(little #2 at impact) he has a broad sweeping release(big pully) the opposite extreme of TW.

AP said to pull down in his and Chris Schenkels 2 lp instruction album of the 60's

The "sweet spot" ref. is -see my Lab Thread below- I do not see any physics that are sweet spot controled. The left hand is controling for clubface and putting the face on the ball is a computer learned event. This subject deserves conversation because I believe "sweet spot" is not what it is thought to be or do.

HB

If AP swings...then WHO Hits?

Haven't stayed up with the sweet spot thread....I'll have a look...I'm certainly no physics type...but seems to me the loading/stress on the shaft is different if the face is laying on the plane vs. if it is cutting the plane?

O.B.Left 01-01-2012 10:47 PM

You can "pull down" and then Thrust, Hit. Hitting with a Swingers Drag Loading in other words.

It isn't 12-1 Drive Loading no, but it is Hitting ..... Didn't our own Luke once tell us that he employs a Swingers Startdown?

4 Barrel as I understand things anyways.

brianid 01-05-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 89278)
You can "pull down" and then Thrust, Hit. Hitting with a Swingers Drag Loading in other words.

It isn't 12-1 Drive Loading no, but it is Hitting ..... Didn't our own Luke once tell us that he employs a Swingers Startdown?

4 Barrel as I understand things anyways.

When you see that delivery picture of Tiger, why do you guys all see that Tiger has to release thru hitting procedure? You think the only way to nail that ball at that position is ONLY thru a hitting procedure? I don't think so.

IMO Tiger can release that thru PA3. Why do you guys ain't even considering it at all? With PA3 you can accelerate up into peak clubhead speed by impact. At that position of Tiger, PA2's gonna give that PA3 a hard shove, pushing and helping the left wrist to release thru PA3 and accelerate clubhead speed into the ball. With Tiger's strength, he CAN accelerate and reach that peak clubhead speed thru rotationalpower/PA3-based release that's otherwise unreachable by someone of lesser strength and/or if tmain release mechanism is thru velocity power/PA2-based.

Are you guys really not even considering this, or are you avoiding it's discussion for whatever reason?

Mr. Yoda?


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