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comdpa 08-07-2011 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 86277)
Justin,

Lots of good things. You don't need me for those.

Aberrations that jump out:

1. Underplane Start Up and Backstroke.

2. Rubber-Wristed Top.

3. Exaggerated Finish.

Work to do.

As have we all.

:salut:
The oracle has finally spoken...!

Could you please clarify on point 1?

Which plane should I start on - elbow or turned shoulder?

Yoda 08-07-2011 11:40 PM
Plane Choice
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by comdpa (Post 86279)
The oracle has finally spoken...!

Could you please clarify on point 1?

Which plane should I start on - elbow or turned shoulder?
Pick one.

You are under both.

:salut:

MizunoJoe 08-08-2011 11:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 86280)
Pick one.

You are under both.

:salut:
Hey Yoda,

Good to hear from you! How can you see this underplane condition from the face-on view? Or are you just assuming this because Justin uses the shoulder turn takeaway rather than the RFT? And are you implying that he is in an incorrect position at the Top?

Yoda 08-08-2011 11:48 PM
Through the Looking Glass: What 'Is' Versus 'What Can Be'
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 86290)
Hey Yoda,

How can you see this underplane condition from the face-on view? Or are you just assuming this because Justin uses the shoulder turn takeaway rather than the RFT? And are you implying that he is in an incorrect position at the Top?
How can you see this underplane condition from the face-on view?

It's what I do.

Or are you just assuming this because Justin uses the shoulder turn takeaway rather than the RFT?

Whatever, the Hands have allowed the emphasized Body Turn to rip themselves and the Club way too inside and under plane. Nothing that can't be corrected, of course, which Justin does. As did Ray Floyd. Not ideal, but not fatal.

And are you implying that he is in an incorrect position at the Top?

It could be better. The fact that you refer to a gross "position" -- as opposed to specific "alignments" -- defines our gulf.

:salut:

comdpa 08-09-2011 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 86299)
How can you see this underplane condition from the face-on view?

It's what I do.

Or are you just assuming this because Justin uses the shoulder turn takeaway rather than the RFT?

Whatever, the Hands have allowed the emphasized Body Turn to rip themselves and the Club way too inside and under plane. Nothing that can't be corrected, of course, which Justin does. As did Ray Floyd. Not ideal, but not fatal.

And are you implying that he is in an incorrect position at the Top?

It could be better. The fact that you refer to a gross "position" -- as opposed to specific "alignments" -- defines our gulf.

:salut:
Yoda,

Attached please see a down line view of the swing.
Thank you for taking the time to look at this, I appreciate your feedback.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?...be_gdata_playe

Etzwane 08-09-2011 03:59 AM
Did you mean this one ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNh0dRcHGBw

comdpa 08-09-2011 05:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Etzwane (Post 86301)
Oh yes, thanks for this...copied and pasted wrongly on the ipad!

Yoda 08-09-2011 07:39 AM
A Great Divide
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by comdpa (Post 86300)
Yoda,


Thank you for taking the time to look at this, I appreciate your feedback.
Justin,

I've taken a look at some of your other YouTube postings (and now have an idea, too, of where you're "coming from"). Fundamentally, we just have very different views of the correct hand and arm alignments and how to swing a golf club, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNQPX2fRdRM&NR=1.

Your swing evidences what I consider to be several serious exaggerations. No doubt others see it differently ("Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."). Good luck.

:salut:

comdpa 08-09-2011 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 86299)
How can you see this underplane condition from the face-on view?

It's what I do.

Or are you just assuming this because Justin uses the shoulder turn takeaway rather than the RFT?

Whatever, the Hands have allowed the emphasized Body Turn to rip themselves and the Club way too inside and under plane. Nothing that can't be corrected, of course, which Justin does. As did Ray Floyd. Not ideal, but not fatal.

And are you implying that he is in an incorrect position at the Top?

It could be better. The fact that you refer to a gross "position" -- as opposed to specific "alignments" -- defines our gulf.

:salut:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 86303)
Justin,

I've taken a look at some of your other YouTube postings (and now have an idea, too, of where you're "coming from"). Fundamentally, we just have very different views of the correct hand and arm alignments and how to swing a golf club, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNQPX2fRdRM&NR=1.

Your swing evidences what I consider to be several serious exaggerations. No doubt others see it differently ("Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."). Good luck.

:salut:
Yoda,

You are mistaken. Those videos were taken way back in 2009. I am now "back", because I fell off the way path as I have outlined somewhere in this thread. The only videos that are representative of what my view is is from 2011.

KevCarter 08-09-2011 09:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by comdpa (Post 86304)
Yoda,

You are mistaken. Those videos were taken way back in 2009. I am now "back", because I fell off the way path as I have outlined somewhere in this thread. The only videos that are representative of what my view is is from 2011.
Holy smokes. What was that video all about? I don't think I've seen a drill quite like that before...

Kevin


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