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12 piece bucket 12-28-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80516)
Has anyone considered "Plane Line Tracing"?

Although there may be multiple causes for Off Plane Post Impact Shaft Syndrome (O-PPISS), maybe the solution, if necessary, is going back to the basic fundamentals.

I'm for sure cool with tracing . . . BUT . . . we can't forget 1-L-5 . . . That is what I see Hogan doing so well . . . doesn't deviate from the line nor does he deviate from the selected plane angle (elbow plane in his case). He lays the shaft on the plane as well as anybody who's ever laced 'em up.

Has a lot to do with right shoulder geometry and trajectory too . . hip and knee action . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJlzCoxiTdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KI9XsiiA-Q

BerntR 12-28-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 80506)
Please post a specific photo comparison together with your own observations and conclusions. I'll then add my own. Everybody else feel free to join the fun!
:salut:

I guess I had it coming:laughing9

I need a good down the line or up the line Hogan photo sequence or film to do this. One where I can see hand path and clubhead path on a number of position from end to end. I have spent about two hours browsing for Hogan sequences but I can't find something that is good enough for this purpose. If anyone has something that can be used please let me know.

Daryl 12-28-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 80522)
I guess I had it coming:laughing9

I need a good down the line or up the line Hogan photo sequence or film to do this. One where I can see hand path and clubhead path on a number of position from end to end. I have spent about two hours browsing for Hogan sequences but I can't find something that is good enough for this purpose. If anyone has something that can be used please let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNgMN...ayer_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4DCZuAj5Mg&NR=1

chipingguru 12-28-2010 03:43 PM

Could u use that hogan swing path without the tremendous lag he generates?

Average guy would turn the sod over it trying that move, wouldn't they?

joe curtis 12-28-2010 04:35 PM

you would not want to actively uncock and roll.

BerntR 12-29-2010 12:22 AM

Thank you Daryl,

The first film there is much better than I could find.

Amen Corner 12-29-2010 04:46 AM

Let me throw in this quote for consideration....

Its from the book
The Pro: Lessons from My Father About Golf and Life
by Claude Harmon (Author), Joseph Buttler (Narrator)
---------------------------------

Once when practicing with Ben Hogan Claude Snr. asked Ben about swing plane. Mr. Hogan pointed his thumb down the range at the other players and said;
"They keep trying to get their hands high, more upright, and I'm trying to get flatter all the time. As I get flat when I move into the ball with my left side, it drops me inside even flatter and I come from the inside every time without ever coming over the ball. The flatter I get the fatter my wallet gets."

12 piece bucket 12-29-2010 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen Corner (Post 80568)
Let me throw in this quote for consideration....

Its from the book
The Pro: Lessons from My Father About Golf and Life
by Claude Harmon (Author), Joseph Buttler (Narrator)
---------------------------------

Once when practicing with Ben Hogan Claude Snr. asked Ben about swing plane. Mr. Hogan pointed his thumb down the range at the other players and said;
"They keep trying to get their hands high, more upright, and I'm trying to get flatter all the time. As I get flat when I move into the ball with my left side, it drops me inside even flatter and I come from the inside every time without ever coming over the ball. The flatter I get the fatter my wallet gets."

Hence the pane of glass . . . . . .

innercityteacher 12-29-2010 03:02 PM

Nice, I felt like an idiot the other day.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amen Corner (Post 80568)
Let me throw in this quote for consideration....

Its from the book
The Pro: Lessons from My Father About Golf and Life
by Claude Harmon (Author), Joseph Buttler (Narrator)
---------------------------------

Once when practicing with Ben Hogan Claude Snr. asked Ben about swing plane. Mr. Hogan pointed his thumb down the range at the other players and said;
"They keep trying to get their hands high, more upright, and I'm trying to get flatter all the time. As I get flat when I move into the ball with my left side, it drops me inside even flatter and I come from the inside every time without ever coming over the ball. The flatter I get the fatter my wallet gets."

Doing the Gregg Mchatton had my club feeling like it was my belt. The only way that swing works is by leaving the club face wide open and pulling the handle straight left!

Wait a minute....:smiley2304: :cheers:

Off to the range!


ICT

joe curtis 12-29-2010 03:16 PM

inner my boy, you are gaining on it.


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