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The Missing Piece isn't clubface control. It is simply Hogan's way of eliminating many unwanted shots. The physics and geometry it sets up explains his belief about planes he describes in Five Lessons. Mark Blackburn and I saw many people for many years that were "running out of right arm" because of where their center of mass was and what it made the left shoulder do. Dave Hamiliton helped me so much with the physics of the motion. All we want to do is contribute to what we have been taught by numerous teachers and players. That is one of the greatest things about the game...we can all share knowledge and pass it down through the generations.

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got my copy this mo by Fedex, 2/3rds through already and i'm really enjoying it alot. This is completely different then my present pattern, but as youve described in your book, i have many 'wobbles' especially about the pivot. I have much incubation to do now.

I just wanted to say thanks, when i get through the book and hit some balls, i will definately want to pick your brain:salut:

Three more frames
 

UPP...here are 3 extra frames in advance of the 1st one shown above....hope this helps...O:)

VJ,

i dont know if you mind me asking, but here gos.

question regarding page 49 at the end of the page. There is mention of impact circle with an axis 5 feet behind left foot, i dont see that in my noodle, could you explain?

I am really having fun with this book, we are in the deep frost right now in canada but indoor ranges open next week, for now, ice and snow are getting the wallup of the move, lol!

The impact circle axis is shown in Figures 11 & 12 on page 37.

Please sir, may I have some more
 

If it's not too much trouble, can I impose on you to post a few more frames in the sequence with the grid lines; from where they currently end, to follow through.

Thanks (either way)

I second that request. Those are great photos, HG.

In the other,black and white, video sequence of Hogan against a grid he looks to be sliding around on his left foot. No doubt he was swinging on a hard studio floor perhaps even in his street shoes.

Regards
O.B.Left

More Frames
 

Here you go Tank & OB Left. :)

Thank you, but the move as I interpret it is not evident to me in the sequence you have so generously shared. I would have expected to see the right hip move targetward as the arms start to swing back.

UPP in almost good enough to play Ohio

Per V.J.'s Instructions
 

Remember, Upp, the Turned (or Turning in V.J.'s description) Hip's Downstroke Slide does not begin until after the Backstroke's 'hip bump' (lateral Weight Shift / Hip Motion). And that Downstroke Shift does not start until after the Arms are well into the backstroke.

In fact, the 'where' of this Move defines V.J.'s 'secret'. If the lateral Shift occurs near the Top, then nothing new has been added. Among countless others, Bobby Jones, Ernest Jones and Ben Hogan himself have written of the near-top 'Reverse', i.e., Lower Body Leads . . . Upper Body Lags.

Body pulls Arms.

Arms pull Hands.

Hands pull Club.

In V.J.'s 'Secret', the Body Pull begins much earlier in the Backstroke -- with the Hands approximately waist high. Also, the 'look' is vastly different when the Head is held Centered (or nearly so) instead of being allowed to Sway -- purposefully or not -- to the right.

And therein lies the discussion.

:)

Thanks
 

Thank you very much