Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 42105)

During my three day school, Tomasello made references to Homer looking down. While teaching me the magic of the right forearm.....Tommy made the comment, I know Homer's looking down and saying, yes, it can be that easy.

I figure if Homer was looking down in 1993, I'm pretty they're both looking down now in between golf shots and getting a kick out of all this non-sense surounding the little yellow book.

DG

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 42107)

Pretty creepy bringing up TT and HK that way. Dude- tell a pill.



Here are a few things Homer wrote about the Pivot, Lag and stroke sequence. It differs from some beliefs posted above by others- I guess I just misinterpret again.

8. Hip Slide starts the down swing. (from a stroke sequence list)

Keep your body ahead of your hands and your hands ahead of the club. (that is one leading the other the right order.)

Educated Hands are those that can feel the resistance of motion --
CLUBHEAD lag. (that happens when fully loaded- Pivot and Accumulator Lag)

5. Improve one step at a time, start with the pivot. (that important, it is , yes)

Hula Hula - This flexibility allows the right forearm to remain on
plane and keeps the shoulder motion and hip motion independent. Keep these (2) separate. (not what DG reports and see SEC- it allows the right forearm magic to remain on plane- that is what the Man said- no me)

A sharp Backstroke Turn, a Downstroke Hip Slide only, (before the Arm Motion begins) encourages "On Plane" Pivot alignments.
So its - Turn, Slide, Swing. (lets see- a RFT, then a DS Hip Slide BEFORE Arm Motion begins to encourage ON PLANE Pivot alignments- Geez that Homer was a rebel. DG says no way. )

Careful:

Aiming Point - At the Top of the Backstroke - even at the End -
mentally construct a line from the Hands to the Aiming Point. Let a
careful Downstroke Pivot move the Hands precisely along this line
they will "feel" as though they remain at the top of the Stroke. Don't question that Feel - just sustain (monitor) it, all ready for Release at the preselected Release Point. Drive the Hands (Clubhead Feel) "down the line" until both arms are straight, NO QUITTING! This procedure merely utilizes a long used method for drawing freehand straight lines between two points. Using the Clubshaft as the pencil is an effective equivalent.

(Holy Fudge- Downstroke Pivot moves the Hands- WTF is Homer doing here. Okay it is a well trained and fairly careful Downstroke Pivot but move the Hands?? And they will ‘feel’ like they remained at the top- question not- just sustain and monitor the “it” and get ready for release and then drive the Hands in a down the line until both are straight? Homer, what are you saying? That the Hands are clamps before release?)


But Homer is all wrong, right?

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 42110)

First let me say that I’m out of your Magic Kingdom. It was very self-centered to say Homer and Tom would be so disgusted at this. What I cheap shot taken in VAIN. Lynn- remember him- said that Homer loved questions. Question are earthquakes to you, Dg.

Second- those notes came from audio tapes of Master Classes taught by Homer. This is what Homer taught to his students. The 7th Edition- in my opinion - was not written entirely by Homer Kelley. Joe Daniels should have put his name on the book with Kelley’s.

I’m told 7-3 removed the word Magic- if the edition is so dear- drop the term.

One day you will might stop hiding behind Tom Tomesello.

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 42111)

Bottom line. You study with Lynn....I'll study what Tomasello taught me (the most efficient centrifugal force golf swing). Then maybe one day will meet up on the golf course and see who really kicks butt. As they say, the proof is in the pudding.

"I'm told 7-3 removed the word Magic" what are you trying to say there???

DG

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 42091)

You miss the point about Hula Hula- the hips move without the shoulders moving. If the shoulders don’t move – How can the hands be moved by them? They can’t. HULA HULA only moves the hips - nothing else. Please get that point correct. Independent movement from shoulders. Let the Hands grip the club at this point.


I spoke of PIVIOT LAG - I didn't talk about Clubhead Lag. You load Accumulator Lag on the backstroke. Crank start the Downstroke by loading Pivot Lag – at least according to Homer Kelley. Only now can Clubhead Lag PRESSURE be obtained. You don’t order it, you don’t think it. You load it. You load that Clubhead Lag PRESSURE (different from hands ahead of clubhead alignment which most the world only sees as Lag) only by loading your Accumulators and Pivot Lag. And Lag Pressure is inert- you don’t let the hands move it. Accumulators move them to prevent throw-away

The Pivot Lag is the crank of the “gear train”, the explosion of the launching pad. It is part of Educated Hands. Educate them. Get away from a pivot control take-away (shoulder turn and standard hip action) and use a Right Forearm Take-away. Remember the Magic? The gear train sequentially drags its preceding Component. And you say this is pivot control? Homer was wrong I guess. Once the Hands are Educated- they are Clamps with sensors.

I find that many are afraid to pivot because of the Hands control the Pivot axiom fearing that they are now pivot control- baloney. If you don’t pivot, throw darts.

One last point you don't see- the hip action doesn't move the hands off the incline plane. Hula Hula doesn't create a hip/Hand relationship. I'm afraid you misunderstood the word -lead. Lead in this context only means “ahead of- or comes before.” It does not mean steer or bring in a line.

You underestimate your Hands.

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 42091)

I find that many are afraid to pivot because of the Hands control the Pivot axiom fearing that they are now pivot control- baloney. If you don’t pivot, throw darts.

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