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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 49704)

UPP,
Now if you needed help beatin down bird breath! I'm here to help!
Rule #1 - If he starts a thread- it will end in a beat down bar fight! Guaranteed!
Rule #2- He's ugly. Why do I say that? - just sounds right to me.
Rule #3- It's just about impossible to thread-jack a Bucket thread but that should not stop you from trying!

Those are the three imperatives as I see them.

As usual PM me with any and all solutions to this problem. Whoever sent me that PM with the mud, chicken, car, and vinegar idea- sorry but it was just too sick- I think it was DG- nevermind- not sure. However, we are modifying it for the October reunion- any and all ideas to rid this site of this greased chicken will be accepted!

Michael . . .

Please don't do this to my thread. It is rude. We're having a very serious discussion here. You and your little friends need to keep your juvenile humor contained somewhere else. You should be ashamed of your behavior. You always obfuscate the true message. People are trying to learn. You are being purposefully disruptive.

Now please refrain from this activity or remove yourself from the forum.

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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 49704)

UPP,

Rule #3- It's just about impossible to thread-jack a Bucket thread but that should not stop you from trying!

!

You have attempted more jacks lately than when the JC Penny Catalog shows up at Ted's house. Learn from the master (pun intended).

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 49709)

I have no idea what all of this ridiculous pivot talk is about, you just RFP the sumbi#$# and then drop that magical right forearm on it, done deal.

As good as it gets

That explanation sounds about as good as it gets!

UPP in freezing Ohio

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Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 49704)

Thank you!

Mike O to the rescue!

I appreciate your divergent views on the pivot. In this case I sense Homer knew more than he left us with. And we are left to sort it out. Sorting it out with the Bucket? Priceless!

Count me in for the Fall get together!

UPP in freezing Ohio

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Originally Posted by mrodock (Post 49719)

I have no idea what all of this ridiculous pivot talk is about, you just RFP the sumbi#$# and then drop that magical right forearm on it, done deal.

Anyone who has learned, schemed. or figured out a way to wear out his clubs on the sweet spot has got to know more than me. Help!

UPP in cold Ohio

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Originally Posted by golfbulldog (Post 49621)

I get it and I done it.... Greg McHatton does a similar drill where he uses his pivot to push against and move a heavy golf cart... no doubt that the body can do this and that you really become aware of your feet and planet earth when you do this...but in a golf swing this pivot power is used to overcome clubhead inertia at transition and not at impact...IMO.

You hit the ball with clubhead, clubhead attached to shaft, shaft moved as part of power package...what starts the power package in orbit? ...the pivot...we agree on this.

But can the pivot still spin the power package after accumulator 4 has started to release?? Sure , the pivot is still doing work... but is that work merely accomodating power package motion?

Once you release accumulator 2... can you muscle it more to release accumulator 2 harder?? If you do try , are you more likely to upset your alignments? I think that once an accumulator has been released....further muscle power is unadvisable. And what causes release of acc. 4? I think - in a pivot stroke - it is pivot motion.

In a pivot stroke, once you release accumulator 4.... can your pivot add more force? or is it just controlling direction?

I think you hit the proverbial nail on the head.

Many golfers think that the Pivot is like a three stage rocket. That’s the problem. It’s not. It’s not how fast you can turn, it’s that you must keep turning and add Pivot Action.
Pivot doesn’t control direction (unless you have Pivot Controlled Hands). In Hands Controlled Pivot, the Hands sense alignments and the Pivot responds. Jeff Hull was saying this earlier or in another thread. He won’t let the Pivot take-over or do its job if he senses that it’s taking his hands, club, out of alignment.

Daryl,

I agree you must keep the left hip turning, but don't discount speed of the action. It is the speed that activates the strech - shorten cycle of effective pivots. For reference, please check out Chris Welch's kinetic link work on the net. If you can't find it, our man Bucks has the link!

UPP, going to the Golf Show in Ohio :golfcart:

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 49803)

The Pivot CAN DOES and SHOULD influence direction . . . Right Shoulder Location is HUGE . ..

But the Shoulders do have crucial On Plane functions – synchronizing and aligning the Pivot Mtion and Thrust with those of the Power Package (Chapter 6). “On Plane” Right Shoulder Motion is possible only by titling its axis – the spine. See 7-14. In this area the Left Shoulder is helpless. The geometry of Shoulder Control deals only with Right Shoulder, for there are no guide lines for Left Shoulder control of the Right Shoulder. Therefore, variations in Right Shoulder location will vary the Left Shoulder location at Impact and, consequently, the Low Point location as well as the Angle of Approach (2-N).

Being a part of the Pivot and the Power Package, the Right Shoulder must reconcile them by moving with the greatest precision for thrust, speed, direction and distance. (7-3) So the Right Shoulder does not flap around haphazardly – it has many responsibilities. And variations in its Impact location will vary the Right Elbow’s Impact Bend and so may alter the Impact alignment of the Clubface. See 6-E and 7-23. The long Backstroke Shoulder Turn produces CIRCLE Path (10-23-E) and ARC of Approach procedures. The short Shoulder Turn produces “LINE” types of Delivery Path (10-23) and “ANGLE” of Approach procedures (2-J-3). So – if the Shoulder Turn is too great and takes the Hands inside the proper Angle of Approach (2-J-3), then you must shift to an Arc of Approach Delivery Line to “clear the Right Hip” (2-J-3). Or get an unwanted Pull. OR A SHANK. Otherwise, the Three Dimensions will become un-correlated including Compression Leakage (2-C-0) and an obvious struggle. As it goes back, so it tends to come down – because of the differences in Loading Characteristics (Components 11, 19, and 22).

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Originally Posted by Uppndownn (Post 49807)

Ok, I just read the Theory. He's Clueless.