Lynn...I do believe at the Pine Needles Workshop you showed us at the Finish Swivel that the left wrist is slightly bent and the right wrist flattens slightly as the hands rotate/swivel to the parallel to the plane for the Finish...Has your position changed? Or is it due to a different grip type?.....Or did Ben influence your change of opinion?...I could be wrong..but you know I tend to listen very carefully..

I would asssume the Finish Swivel varies coming out of the different Hinge Actions and Plane Angle Variations!!!!!


The flatter the plane angle variation the more roll...the more upright the less!!!

Thanks for demonstrating and showing Ben's "Perverted Finish Swivel" as compared to the Yoda Finish Swivel....

Yours is more by the book!!!

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Perhaps....

But I think the real argument here is "what (often/ALSO) works" vs. "by the book".

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That seems to be a common theme with a lot of these debates....

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My thinking is that if something works then what can you say really.....honestly, who cares.

....and maybe it doesn't work for everyone....but if it works better for SOMEBODY, then what can you say really?

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One thing that I always think of is Homer saying: "You don't HAVE TO do anything!" in his audio tape with Lynn.

Is this one of those things?

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just asking a question based on what was shown at the Needles!!!

Ahahah.....those damn smilies!!

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Aahah monkey.

The Flat Right Wrist And the Cocked Left Wrist During the Finish Swivel
 

The Right Wrist does indeed Flatten during the Finish Swivel as the Right Palm rotates palm-down to the Plane. And most players -- even TOUR players -- tend to Flatten it even sooner (during, not after, the Hinge Action). Accordingly, the Left Wrist for most players -- even TOUR players -- tends to Bend. To the extent these folk play well -- and many do -- it is because they have become expert 'throwers' of the Golf Club.

But ideally, the Left Wrist remains Flat as it only Swivels and then Re-Cocks. When viewed from Down-the-Line, this Re-Cocking of the Flat Left Wrist in its vertical Plane of Motion -- the Left Arm Flying Wedge -- appears somewhat 'cupped' or Bent. [See my recent post on the appearance of the Cocked Left Wrist at the Top.]

But it is not.

It is only Cocked -- as when using a hammer -- in its own vertical plane of motion.

Read the Book...And Think
 

Homer Kelley felt his book could be used as a reference for all questions regarding Golf Stroke Mechanics. The answers, he said, were there, either stated explicitly or implied.

In the book, he advised Golfers to "Take all Strokes to the Both Arms Straight Position." (6-H-0-C).

The "...end of a short Chip Shot" (2-G) is then, by definition, to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight per your own reference, 8-11).

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Again, you argue Position Golf and semantics.

I argue Alignment Golf with its Hinge Action Rhythm and On Plane Finish Swivel (2-G and 7-10).

Scroll down and look at the Clubface for goodness sake.

El Capitain!!!...Gracious.....:notworthy

The Eye Of the Beholder
 

Thank you, Tom, for your contribution.

I really don't get all this reliance on "science" and Newton's laws, especially when Einstein came along quite a few years ago and blew some of that stuff out of the water. And then the quantum guys came along and scared the bejesus out of him. Homer and G.O.L.F were not, are not, will not be the last word. It will be challenged, and it will be found faulty and something better will emerge. It's how science works. This basic geometric model also fails to incorporate the fourth dimension into calculations.