Eldrick Picture..good?bad? depends?

[HungryBear]

AT THE RISK OF HAVING MY MOTIVES QUESTIONED

No! No! No!

The clubface is "the flat left wrist" and the hinge is in the left arm. Set it at fix and hold it.

I think there is a lot of confusion in inderstanding-
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6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR

With true Throw-Out Action (no manual Clubface manipulation), Centrifugal Force automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubface for Horizontal Hinging (10-10-D) regardless of the Grip being used. And Ball Position (2-N) for straight-away flight must agree with the amount of “Hookface” designed into the Club, and is, therefore, unalterable except with manual override action or adjustment of the Plane Line. True “Drive Out” Action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment (7-10) and automatically produces Angled Hinging (10-10-C). Study 7-3 and 10-11-0-3. Regardless of Lag Loading Procedure, Vertical Hinging (10-10-B) is a deliberate manual manipulation.
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Please read my "sweet spot" thread down in the lab. And think through the dynamics, please!!

Three dimentional alignments to move ON a TWO dimensional plane. The hinge is Left side and keeps the "peas on the spoon"

Sorry- just my opinion- without motive.

HB

[Daryl]

I agree with this....but some variance in clubface motion could happen due to the location of the handle, trigger delay, plane angle and stance plane line combo no?

Yes. Now you're adding the "Geometry of the Circle" to Hinge Action to create almost any Trajectory and Ball Flight Characteristics.

[Daryl]

The clubface is "the flat left wrist"....

The Flat Left Wrist "represents" the Clubface and then only does so if the Primary Lever travels at the same RPM through the Impact Interval.

.... and the hinge is in the left arm. Set it at fix and hold it.

The Left Arm is a Lever. The Hinge is at one end of the Lever. The Left Shoulder is at the End of the Lever. The Hinge Pins are Located at the Left Shoulder.

Three dimentional alignments to move ON a TWO dimensional plane. The hinge is Left side and keeps the "peas on the spoon"

The Path of an orbit is three dimensional. The Orbit can exist on a two dimensional Plane. Hinge Action and keeping the peas on a spoon are two different vegetables.

[HungryBear]

The Flat Left Wrist "represents" the Clubface and then only does so if the Primary Lever travels at the same RPM through the Impact Interval.

I think "make the motion" in this case with the "generic" flat left hand/wrist and the clubface will take care of itself.

The Left Arm is a Lever. The Hinge is at one end of the Lever. The Left Shoulder is at the End of the Lever. The Hinge Pins are Located at the Left Shoulder.

I kind-of stuck it in the arm because there are some rotary alignments to maintain.

The Path of an orbit is three dimensional. The Orbit can exist on a two dimensional Plane. Hinge Action and keeping the peas on a spoon are two different vegetables.

What off plane forces/motion do you have in mind that will make the third, off plane, dimension?

............ Now that you mention it- I like peas
hb

[O.B.Left]

"The hinge.... keeps the peas on the spoon". I love that. That should be on a brass plaque in the archives. D, can you arrange for that???

I like the hinge at the left shoulder , think its ideal actually , but there are stroke types which don't allow for it to be so. Take for instance Billy Caspers zone 3 , hands, only putting in which he showed Vertical Hinging . He manipulated the Hinge Action ... used his Hands to Hinge. Or take the pure shoulder stroke putting method with any hinge action .... the Spine as the Hinge. Or my old uncle Terry who played golf with just his right arm after a bout with polio as a child left his left arm useless .... he had a beautiful Horizontal Hinge with Id say his Right Forearm or would it be right elbow as the location of the hinge.

Homer in the audio tapes said that any of the three zones could create the Hinge Action "as if it were located at the left shoulder". That said , I think "Right hand club head, left hand club face " is the ideal as using the right arm or hand for face control would necessitate the compliance of the right elbow , which is often one wild horse to have strapped to your club face alignment horse cart. Its got other things on its mind.

[Daryl]

I kind-of stuck it in the arm because there are some rotary alignments to maintain.

The Path of an orbit is three dimensional. The Orbit can exist on a two dimensional Plane. Hinge Action and keeping the peas on a spoon are two different vegetables.

What off plane forces/motion do you have in mind that will make the third, off plane, dimension?

There are rotations of the Left arm. But those rotations are the Start-up Swivel and Release Swivel. They're independent of Hinge Action.

3 dimensional path = down-out-forward. No off-plane motion because the 3 dimensional path is within the 2 dimensional Plane.

[HungryBear]

two questions?

1. The tiger pix at #1 in this thread. Is there a video containing this "snapshot"?

2. Many times I read in comments/reply's "there is no #4 pressure". I seldom have more than a feel at pp#4 and accumulater #4 is still releasing after the left arm leaves the chest. Am I missing something?

hb

[12 piece bucket]

two questions?

1. The tiger pix at #1 in this thread. Is there a video containing this "snapshot"?

2. Many times I read in comments/reply's "there is no #4 pressure". I seldom have more than a feel at pp#4 and accumulater #4 is still releasing after the left arm leaves the chest. Am I missing something?

hb

1. No video...just a snap shot....you can likely find some video this weekend of this move...playing at Pebble....

2. If you wall stab with the buttcap and have you shoulders that closed...you won't have any #4 pressure point....the cat only hit 2 fairways the final round at Dubia....or however you spell it.

[HungryBear]

1. No video...just a snap shot....you can likely find some video this weekend of this move...playing at Pebble....

Looks like the Chevon where Tiger won. A video of his swing there. Looks like the snapshot fit this swing.

2. If you wall stab with the buttcap and have you shoulders that closed...you won't have any #4 pressure point....the cat only hit 2 fairways the final round at Dubia....or however you spell it.

Add pivot power??

THE hb exploring the swing

[3Putt]

@airair

What is the difference between "Drive Out" as you have quoted and "Throw Out" like it says in the 7. edition?

Air, do a few searches. This has been asked a few times before. There is a typo in the 7th.