I'm worried that this thread is going to end in an abyss of misunderstanding by introducing the "CP Release".
[list=1][*]The term "CP Release" was coined by Mac O'Grady.[*]It was invented out of a couple of necessities, but foremost, I think it stems from thinking that TGM "Passive Right Arm" means a "Limp and inactive Right Forearm". Which isn't true.
Great post, Daryl. I think a lot of the CP arguments against TGM is based on a biased TGM interpretation and not necessarily valid for TGM in general.
I agree with most of what you say here and you do a fine job at translating it to TGM terms.
But I don't agree the with the flavor you add to Hogan's stroke. The compensation part.
There are a lot of ways to release the club. One method is to launch the hands from the shoulder (the Accumulator #4 blast-off) and later fire the primary lever from the hands. A sort of biokinetic chain reaction with a rapid overtaking by the lagging component over the leading component. And a very sequenced way of striking the ball. And finished off with a very outspoken finish swivel. Another way is to keep the hands and pivot on the same angular speed and basically release the club with and from the pivot. The relationship between the pivot and the hands are then much more simultaneous and less sequenced than when you fire Accumulator #4 early.
In real worlds strokes we're probably talking shades of grey here and not black and white. But the difference between Hogan and VJ Sing isn't small in that regard.
I don't believe that any good golf stroke has a Right Shoulder location that thrusts the Right Hand on plane. They all need to thrust under plane to keep the Hand on plane.
First of all, on all videos I've seen the Right Shoulder is always in the process of turning over the hand path and not in the process of tracing the hand path. Second, a right shoulder that thrusts on plane plus a club that is thrown out due to CF plus arms that are attached to the pivot above the geometrical swing center will move the hands and the clubhead above the plane. Unless you also pull your hands towards the body to fight the CF that the club impose on your hands.
I believe that all good strokes have a thrust line from the Right Shoulder through the Right Hand that support the required hand path, included CF flyaway prevention. At least for a while. There may be ABS type motorized hinges, torquing wrists and all kinds of active hands and arms and wrists activities going on that isn't visible on the surface but still make a difference. But the push from the shoulder through PP #1 and PP#3 is just too important to be misaligned regardless of stroke pattern.
In the first type of release - the sequenced action - the shoulder to hand relationship will become gradually more outwards and forward as the arms are blast off the chest and move out from the pivot.
In the second type - where you don't blast the Left Arm off the chest your thrust from the Right Shoulder will be more downward as the hands get more underneath the shoulder. The covering shoulder as Bucket put it. The line of thrust will become more vertical and more supporting of a CP hand path - a "swing left" hand path if you wish. It will prevent the Hands from flying out.
IMO, the "swinging left" pattern has a lot to do with Accumulator #4 application and timing.
I agree that the fade partly explains what we see in Hogan's stroke, but it doesn't explane the difference between Hogan and Monty - or Freddie, just to mention a couple of great golfer that could fade the ball as good as anyone with a very different procedure from Hogan's.
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