Thanks. very helpful. Still there is the issue of whether in fact the first move of the right shoulder is 'quick' or rather that it does not have to be slow (as it must be for the hitter). And the first direction the right shoulder takes (as a result of the left hip bump) is down and if that is right it is not a flywheel action of any sort, or so it seems to me. The flywheel action occurs as a result of the pivot action I take it and that comes after the weight shift. So it seems to me there are two moves that the right shoulder makes -- one in response to the hip bump (right shoulder down, also causing the axis tilt); the second is the flywheel as a result of the pivot/rotation. So even if the flywheel is quick motion it does not happen first. The right shoulder drops on plane first and does not spin -- though I recall seeing Lynn Blake referring the right shoulder spinning at the start of the downswing (in a swinger). I thought I saw that in one of his videos and I recall reading in TGM that the right shoulder moves quickly in a swinger at the start of the downswing; and that is the source of my confusion. For it seems to me that if the downswing starts from the ground up, the first move of the right shoulder is down the plane; and only then can there be any 'spinning' at all.
Am I mistaken? I am open to learning that I have this all wrong.
I am one of those golfers who isn't happy just having good swings; I have to feel I have good swings for the right reason; and I have to understand that I am doing it correctly. I am sure that this is a minority view as for most people good shots are reward enough. I wish I had more good shots of course, but I crave full understanding (or as close as I can get)
Hey Jules
Perhaps this will help, perhaps not.
-The "Axis" of Axis Tilt is the Shoulder Axis. Keeping the Head Centered a Sliding of the HIps will tilt the Axis. Meaning the Right Shoulder is lowered. A great thing especially if you are employing a Turned Shoulder Plane. The right shoulder does not "make" this move itself, on its own power. This Hip Slide by the way is a great way to stop the backward motion of the Hands and Arms. Hogan did it really early in Backswing by about the time his left arm was parallel to the ground or so. As in all Pivot Components in regard to 6M1 there is a little slack to be taken up before one Component can actually move the following component. A little muscular stretching prior to shortening.
-8-7 Startdown is the period or Shoulder Acceleration , 8-8 Downstroke is the period of Hand Acceleration , 8-9 Release is the period of Clubhead Acceleration , 8-10 Impact is the period of Ball Acceleration as defined by Homer. Therefor the Axis Tilt if it is employed at all, is prior to Startdown by definition as it does not accelerate the Right Shoulder towards Impact.
-The only thing in Homers world that is quick is the swingers instant initial hip (turn) acceleration and the resulting drive of the right shoulder down plane. As Lynn says "The Right Shoulder, spins , spins, spins like a fly wheel". Which courtesy of the #3 Pressure Point acting in its directional/aiming function, Hands to Pivot, is aligned to the Delivery Line not parallel to the ground like the normal flywheel you mention. Otherwise the Right Shoulder would not be traveling the Inclined Plane which is the entire objective of the Turned Shoulder Plane procedure. This spinning, rotational action of the Right Shoulder creates a CF induced automatic Throwout of the Left Arm (the period of Hand Acceleration) and then in turn the Club (the period of Clubhead Acceleration). We're talking swinging, Automatic Release and full power swings here. Less initial Hip Acceleration means less Loading, less Lag Pressure. And its Lag Pressure that regulates distance. Hogan with a half wedge did not spin his hips or right shoulder as quickly as he did with a driver for instance.
-The Hitter assuming a Three Barrel procedure (who doesnt employ his Right Shoulder like above), who stops at Top and therefore with less Shoulder Turn than those who stop at End, in Startdown leaves his Right Shoulder back, somewhat, as he thrusts his #1 , his active right arm extension. He is using his Right Shoulder as a, somewhat, non accelerating backstop to drive off of , like a launch pad for a rocket, say.
Ill defer to Luke or somebody else as to whether a 4 Barrel Hitter typically employs a slowish startdown. The Remax Long Drive guys dont but they dont even look for those shots, let alone have to play them. Im betting a 4B that is playing for score is typically slowish in Startdown for timing and execution reasons. But packing a real whollap at the bottom.
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