left Hand Karate Chop

[Mitchdoc]

Can a swinger still set up at impact fix and use the right forearm pickup procedure for the takeaway?

[Yoda]

Can a swinger still set up at impact fix and use the right forearm pickup procedure for the takeaway?

The Swinger should definitely use the Right Forearm Takeaway, whether from Fix or preferably, Adjusted Address.

[Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Mitchdoc

Can a swinger still set up at impact fix and use the right forearm pickup procedure for the takeaway?

The Swinger should definitely use the Right Forearm Takeaway, whether from Fix or preferably, Adjusted Address.

I second that motion!!!! Really, no pun intended!!!


DG

[EdStraker]

Can a swinger still set up at impact fix and use the right forearm pickup procedure for the takeaway?

I use a swinging procedure with right forearm pickup for the takeaway. You can setup at impact fix or classic address position(left wrist bent, right wrist straight).

For the longer clubs, I use classic address postion and impact fix postion for the shorter clubs. I think it is easier to keep the club on-plane for the takeaway with the classic address postion. If I am off-base with what I just wrote, I am sure Yoda will correct this information.

[Mitchdoc]

Originally Posted by Mitchdoc

Can a swinger still set up at impact fix and use the right forearm pickup procedure for the takeaway?

The Swinger should definitely use the Right Forearm Takeaway, whether from Fix or preferably, Adjusted Address.

Well maybe you can clear the fog then Yoda
I was under the impression that one of the key differences between hiting and swinging was that on the takeaway for swingers there is an early turn of the forearms so that at the top, the pp#3 is under the shaft instead of behind it as in hitting. How does the right forearm differ in mtion then between swingers, hitter?

Do you plan to post any video of the right forearm pickup and establishing impact fix? This would be of so much value to us seeking the true light of the force!

[6bmike]

I may be wrong, but....

The location of #3pp for a swinger with the feel of it being under the shaft is due to the position of the hands at the top of a longer backswing and the turn of the hands. All hand and wrist actions are a loading procedure. Swingers using 10-18-A Standard, turn and cock on the backstroke and roll and uncock on the downstroke. This loading procedure will give the feel of #3pp relocating but it is always behind the shaft and will be there-behind- at impact.

The right forearm take away motion should be the same for both strokes. The shorter shoulder level Hitter's top position using 10-18-C keeps #3pp aligned and the Swinger's longer top position using 10-18-A requires an unroll and swivel into a impact. The take away motion is the same, the loading procedure of the hands are different.

[Mitchdoc]

Sounds logical but I thought with hitting one uses angled hinging so it is a no roll feel. If one turns and cocks the left hand/wrist on the takeaway, then the right forearm pickup move can't be the same, if one is n't doing this in hitting.
I am just wondering how do incorporate this swivel etc.

I ask because I knowI was definitely a swinger, and while I am trying hitting out, and liing it, I suspect for the long clubs swinging might produce more distance for me. I am 5'8 155 so my muscular thrust is perhaps not as great as what CF can generate. (I get about 103-107 mph swingspeed with my usual swing, not sure with hitting)

[Bagger Lance]

I played a practice round at my course today and wanted to try a few things I've experimented with on the range.

Today it was a few things to solidify my pattern but the surprise motion was to take the left hand karate chop as deep into the downswing as possible without worrying about left wrist roll. Down, down, as low as she would go. A no release feel. No left wrist manipulation for horizontal hinging.

My trust level was low. I used old ratty balls just in case the results would be as predicted.

Surprisingly enough I didn't push a single shot right. If anything, the horizontal hinge motion felt like a quick rollover snap. It was a very reliable snap roll through impact with a nice divot in front of the ball.

This worked very well from Driver to Lob Wedge. My miss was a pull and it was caused by not tracing a straight planeline past impact. I also noticed a slight distance loss until I realized I wasn't employing enough extensor action. Then it was boom town.

Very cool experiencing a later release but to use it, you have to trust it.

Next time I'm taking some ProV1's out of the box.

[nuke99]

thats so cool,

On what plane are you travelling on?

[Bagger Lance]

On what plane are you travelling on?

Turned Shoulder Plane

I use a flat backstroke shoulder turn to get there. Sets the hands and right shoulder on the TSP. Then its easy to take the power package downplane.