Three barrel versus four barrel hitting
Emergency Room - Hitters
|

11-24-2008, 03:14 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 701
|
|
|
Three barrel versus four barrel hitting
I initially thought that a four barrel hitting stroke occurred according to the following sequence 4:1:2:3, and that a four barrel hitting action occurred when a right shoulder thrust downplane released PA#4 slightly before PA#1 became actively operational, while a triple barrel hitting action was only 1:2/3 without any preceding PA#4 release via a right shoulder thrust action.
However, I recently read this archived Yoda post.
"The Swinger's active Right Shoulder accelerates the Left Arm, and Centrifugal Force and its Throw-Out Action then powers the Clubhead. The Right Arm remains passive -- except for its Right Triceps Extensor Action and the #3 Pressure Point sensing and directing the Clubhead Lag -- and thus the Stroke remains Three-Barrel. In contrast, the Hitter's active Right Shoulder serves as the 'launching pad' for the Right Arm and its Muscular Drive-out Action that powers the Clubhead. Since the Right Arm then drives the entire Primary Lever Assembly (including the Left Arm), the Full-Power Hitting Stroke can properly be classified as Four-Barrel."
That Yoda post suggests that the full power hitting stroke can properly be classified as four barrel because the right arm drives the entire primary lever assembly, which includes the left arm. OK. Then what represents a triple barrel hitting action - ? where the right arm doesn't drive the left arm?
Jeff.
|
|

11-24-2008, 05:59 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thomasville, NC
Posts: 4,380
|
|
Originally Posted by Jeff
|
I initially thought that a four barrel hitting stroke occurred according to the following sequence 4:1:2:3, and that a four barrel hitting action occurred when a right shoulder thrust downplane released PA#4 slightly before PA#1 became actively operational, while a triple barrel hitting action was only 1:2/3 without any preceding PA#4 release via a right shoulder thrust action.
However, I recently read this archived Yoda post.
"The Swinger's active Right Shoulder accelerates the Left Arm, and Centrifugal Force and its Throw-Out Action then powers the Clubhead. The Right Arm remains passive -- except for its Right Triceps Extensor Action and the #3 Pressure Point sensing and directing the Clubhead Lag -- and thus the Stroke remains Three-Barrel. In contrast, the Hitter's active Right Shoulder serves as the 'launching pad' for the Right Arm and its Muscular Drive-out Action that powers the Clubhead. Since the Right Arm then drives the entire Primary Lever Assembly (including the Left Arm), the Full-Power Hitting Stroke can properly be classified as Four-Barrel."
That Yoda post suggests that the full power hitting stroke can properly be classified as four barrel because the right arm drives the entire primary lever assembly, which includes the left arm. OK. Then what represents a triple barrel hitting action - ? where the right arm doesn't drive the left arm?
Jeff.
|
Jeff . .. . In hitting the right arm ALWAYS drives the left arm . . . . even if it's just single barrel. Ted describes 4-Barrell hitting as "it's easier to push a cannon ball that is already rolling than one that is at rest" The pivot takes up the slack in then the right arm drives everything out. If the right arm doesn't drive . . . it' ain't hitting.
__________________
Aloha Mr. Hand
Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand
|
|

11-24-2008, 06:12 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 701
|
|
|
Thanks for replying and indicating that even a single barrel hitting action drives the left arm. Could you please also provide your definitional understanding of the differences between a triple barrel versus four barrel hitting action.
Jeff.
|
|

11-24-2008, 08:19 PM
|
 |
Lynn Blake Certified Senior Instructor
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,334
|
|
|
Taking out the Barrel
Originally Posted by Jeff
|
Thanks for replying and indicating that even a single barrel hitting action drives the left arm. Could you please also provide your definitional understanding of the differences between a triple barrel versus four barrel hitting action.
Jeff.
|
Usually, If the Right Shoulder is doing work (any action) as opposed to not doing any work (just motion).
__________________
Drew
Let Your Motion Make the Shot.
|
|

11-25-2008, 12:35 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 701
|
|
|
Drew
You are apparently implying that if the right shoulder is doing work, that it turns a three barrel hitting action into a four barrel hitting action. However, doesn't that work have to be defined in terms of further PA recruitment/involvement in the hitting action - turning a 1:2:3 pattern into a 4:1:2:3 pattern. Are you saying the right shoulder's active downplane movement releases PA#4 via a pivot-action and that PA#1 then becomes operant?
Jeff.
|
|

11-25-2008, 12:46 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oceanside CA
Posts: 1,398
|
|
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
|
|
Jeff . .. . In hitting the right arm ALWAYS drives the left arm . . . . even if it's just single barrel. Ted describes 4-Barrell hitting as "it's easier to push a cannon ball that is already rolling than one that is at rest" The pivot takes up the slack in then the right arm drives everything out. If the right arm doesn't drive . . . it' ain't hitting.
|
So you guys are still using cannon balls down in the South?
__________________
Life Goal- Developing a new theory of movement based on Brain Science
Interests - Dabbling with insanity
Hobbies- Creating Quality
|
|

11-25-2008, 04:50 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 333
|
|
Originally Posted by Jeff
|
Are you saying the right shoulder's active downplane movement releases PA#4 via a pivot-action and that PA#1 then becomes operant?
Jeff.
|
Jeff,
Cannot translate the last word to my language.
But,
The right shoulder can either be active or passive during startdown.
It will contribute with either action or motion.
__________________
Golf is an impossible game with impossible tools - Winston Churchill
|
|

11-25-2008, 09:11 AM
|
 |
Lynn Blake Certified Master Instructor
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 1,314
|
|
|
the test
Originally Posted by Mike O
|
|
So you guys are still using cannon balls down in the South?
|
Nawww. But, look down this pipe for a minute. I want to show ya somethin'.
__________________
Yoda knows...and he taught me!
For those less fortunate, Swinging is an option.
|
|

11-25-2008, 09:24 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thomasville, NC
Posts: 4,380
|
|
Originally Posted by YodasLuke
|
|
Nawww. But, look down this pipe for a minute. I want to show ya somethin'.
|
Now that was funny . . . . but there are many places to go with this one . . . .
__________________
Aloha Mr. Hand
Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand
|
|

11-25-2008, 11:58 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oceanside CA
Posts: 1,398
|
|
Originally Posted by YodasLuke
|
|
Nawww. But, look down this pipe for a minute. I want to show ya somethin'.
|
Nice.. Very Nice... Gave me a Chuckle this morning!
Oh BTW- I just added you to my list smart a.... 
__________________
Life Goal- Developing a new theory of movement based on Brain Science
Interests - Dabbling with insanity
Hobbies- Creating Quality
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:51 PM.
|
| |