[grapegoat]

i have the pinseeker with the slope option on it. This is a great tool to use durring practice rounds. If you take the slope difference and write it down then you have a close figure to what the hole will play when you are not allowed to use it. I generally take the yardages from my practice round as well as difference in slope and write it down, then when i get there the next day for a round, i have very similar yardages ( depending on the pins ) to what i have written down and seem to be within 2 to 3 yards of the correct distance.