Right Forearm Pick Up?

[davel]

Is the David Orr video still in the gallery? I can't seem to find it.

Dave

Have you watched the David Orr video about the right forearm takeaway? It will help you to better understand what is really happening.
In my own experience, The fanning starts first, while tracing the plane line. The up back and in parts naturally happens due to extensor action and the check rein of the left arm. It's just a fanning and cocking of the right elbow.

[golfbulldog]

No- NOT like Hardy. Forget position golf. The RFT is about the Hands fanning up and back on the Incline Plane. The hardest thing about teaching the RFT is that is so simple. Pick the Hands up the inclined plane.

Watch the video I made for David Orr. Although he is explaining the motion with Bio-Mechanics terminology- it is the Right FOREARM, moved by the Hands, which turns the right shoulder to the Top of the Stroke. Forget about Elbow Position. The Load and Left Wrist Action will set that ALIGNMENT. Allow the Hands to travel on the Incline Plane and they will move Back and Up naturally.

Word by 6bmike / bold by me

Mike - fanning on the plane suddenly made alot more sense! A different motion to what i had previously envisaged which was fanning in relation to horizontal plane rather than the inclined plane - but now i see the up and in component more readily... is this correct? I always see claping hands as horizontal to ground... now on plane(inclined) clapping makes more sense! Thanks

PS . If Homer saw Freddy Couples doing this... why does Feddy do it off plane in take away?? Also do you agree that RFT requires good pivot to make it work properly - even to the point of training the pivot first?

[6bmike]

It was the simplicity that was so tough to teach.

And KEY to the RFT is the Stationary Head. Without it, you might as well just go Low and Slow and relocate the Plane when at the top.

[6bmike]

Word by 6bmike / bold by me

Mike - fanning on the plane suddenly made alot more sense! A different motion to what i had previously envisaged which was fanning in relation to horizontal plane rather than the inclined plane - but now i see the up and in component more readily... is this correct? I always see claping hands as horizontal to ground... now on plane(inclined) clapping makes more sense! Thanks

PS . If Homer saw Freddy Couples doing this... why does Feddy do it off plane in take away?? Also do you agree that RFT requires good pivot to make it work properly - even to the point of training the pivot first?

Even though the clapping motion will “seem” like a pure horizontal movement, it isn’t. You are in an address angle- the hands do move up and back even if you just ‘feel’ back.

My RFT could easily feel like a big fan to the right with a folding right elbow raising the left arm but looked at from the back view, you would see the right forearm move up and back, simultaneously.

Ben Doyle told us that Freddie was the inspiration for the right forearm take-away. Maybe not the carbon copy for it.

You can easily train the take-away side of the Pivot with the RFT because the Hands are actually moving the body with a delayed Hip Action. Perfection! Down Stroke- got to train that side from the bottom up

[6bmike]

Is the David Orr video still in the gallery? I can't seem to find it.

Dave

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...ry.php?cat=517

Under Lynn Blake in the Gallery. David does a nice job looking at the RFT from a different perspective that really shines light on the motion.

[strav]

No- NOT like Hardy. Forget position golf.

What is the difference between “position golf” and the positions that Homer advocates for study and practice for example:
The relations of all Machine positions and motion can be described by a geometric figure. (1-L-21)
In 2-D-1. MAJOR DIRECTIONAL FACTORS he includes:
Power Package Component Position
Pivot Component Position
Address Position Impact

“Take advantage of the fact that the Hands are better at moving into a position than at holding a position “(3-B)

Chapter 4 is titled Wrist Positions and therein he advises ‘practice all Wrist positions and motions….’

In 6-A-4. he speaks of the “normal” position of the Arms. “Fix positions” in 6-B 2-0 and “Right Forearm Position at the Top” (7-3)

Finally, in 8-0 “This twelve Section arrangement presents a chain of Basic Positions and Motions through which every Stroke must pass.
How do all these positions differ from ‘position golf’?

[6bmike]

Homer was against "fixed' position golf. These are positions that you sculpted yourself into vs. positions you obtain through alignments.

Check out the “PP3 where are you?” video clip. Lynn talks briefly about the difference between position golf and alignment golf.

Motion can't accommodate a fixed position. Motion allows positions from alignments to flow through and be 'golf-like.'

[ndwolfe81]

6bmike,

alignment golf is what I am trying to achieve. I am just trying to get a better understanding of the motion, so I can preform it correctly.

Thanks for all the great replies.

I get it now!

[6bmike]

6bmike,

alignment golf is what I am trying to achieve. I am just trying to get a better understanding of the motion, so I can preform it correctly.

Thanks for all the great replies.

I get it now!

It is easy to use the word "position" when learning. Chapter Eight is position-like, so is Impact Fix but what is important is how the position was achieved. Did you go out of alignments to achieve a look? Or did the alignments produce them. Trust alignments.

[spike]

Not trying to get weird here but would like to know how this sounds to you guys.....

The left hand turns and the right wrist bends, the right forearem rotates and the right elbow bends.

Extensor action (as I feel it) maintains the alignments, balance and flow.

If this is a correct sequence then......I was thinking that the words describing the movement of the clubhead would be.....

In/back (much like down/out is used for the downswing), up and behind.

In/back, up and behind. It makes for a nice compact backswing.

Is this too crazy? Is there a flaw in this pattern?