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Old 04-28-2007, 02:09 PM
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First an anecdote, then an inquiry:

When I was a teen I was priviledged to recieve a putting lesson from the great Bobby Locke, whom my father was acquainted with. What followed was not conventional of course and I soon discarded his advise for the so called putting fundamentals. Mr. Locke hammered the importance of a flat and vertical left wrist, and told me to preserve the slight bend in my right wrist. "Master, this is the key!" he said. He advised me to address the ball slighty on the toe of the putter, and to draw my right foot back a few inches. This he said would ensure that I never cut across the ball.

Since I committed to the task of understanding TGM I have revisited every golf lesson I remember ever recieving for the purpose of translating it into TGM terms i.e. the truth in teaching. This is how I have interpreted the putting lesson from the best ever:

He putted with a FLW & BRW
He addressed the ball on the toe, and withdrew his right foot with the intent of striking the ball towards the inside aft quadrant of the ball

I do not recall with perfect clarity, but I seem to remember that at address his putter face was square to the arc of his stroke but slightly open to the target line. Of course sustaining the lag would allow him to send the ball on the target path with a very distinctive click at impact (I still remember that sound!)

My question is this:

If I choose to putt as I have to swing i.e. on an inclined plane, must I strike the inside aft quadrant of the ball with a slightly open clubface? Does the ball remain on the clubface of the putter in the same manner as it does during a regular swing? So the putter face needs to be square only at the moment of seperation?

Mr. Kelley is emphatic about a driver through putter adherence to the principle of golf - sustaining the line of compression. Set me straight!

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Old 04-28-2007, 09:28 PM
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Wow..

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Old 04-30-2007, 11:26 AM
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Thank you Nuke99. I have been waiting for the fog to clear sufficiently just to be able to ask coherent questions! So, am I right in my analysis? Directing the PP3 to the inside aft quadrant of the ball across the board?

Another Bobby Locke anecdote. Mr. Locke stressed that everyone hit a draw. Not until TGM did I understand that he was really advocating that everyone employ the benefits of horizontal hinge action. He did not like people closing the clubface at address in order to hit a draw, but rather to leave it slightly open. I do not suggest that Bobby Locke possessed the model components, but they were apparently in workable combination. Our club professional told me to to ignore what Mr. Locke taught because only he, that is Mr. Locke, could repeat it. I should have paid closer attention to Bobby, after all he lifted the Claret Jug four times! Still, without a fundamental understanding of possibilities i.e. TGM "my way" procedures are difficult if not impossible to emulate.

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Old 04-30-2007, 08:06 PM
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Regarding putting .. wait for VJ ... he is the short game guru here... I don't think I am anywhere qualified to answer.
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:02 AM
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Bobby Locke
If you want a refresher on Bobby Locke's putting procedure,
go to www.puttingzone.com and look up: Attention all golfers,
Golfs Mystique solved. Bobby Locke's true Secrets revealed for
the first time. Forward by former US Open and World Champion
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:36 AM
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The amount of "compression".
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First an anecdote, then an inquiry:

When I was a teen I was priviledged to recieve a putting lesson from the great Bobby Locke, whom my father was acquainted with. What followed was not conventional of course and I soon discarded his advise for the so called putting fundamentals. Mr. Locke hammered the importance of a flat and vertical left wrist, and told me to preserve the slight bend in my right wrist. "Master, this is the key!" he said. He advised me to address the ball slighty on the toe of the putter, and to draw my right foot back a few inches. This he said would ensure that I never cut across the ball.

Since I committed to the task of understanding TGM I have revisited every golf lesson I remember ever recieving for the purpose of translating it into TGM terms i.e. the truth in teaching. This is how I have interpreted the putting lesson from the best ever:

He putted with a FLW & BRW
He addressed the ball on the toe, and withdrew his right foot with the intent of striking the ball towards the inside aft quadrant of the ball

I do not recall with perfect clarity, but I seem to remember that at address his putter face was square to the arc of his stroke but slightly open to the target line. Of course sustaining the lag would allow him to send the ball on the target path with a very distinctive click at impact (I still remember that sound!)

My question is this:

If I choose to putt as I have to swing i.e. on an inclined plane, must I strike the inside aft quadrant of the ball with a slightly open clubface? Does the ball remain on the clubface of the putter in the same manner as it does during a regular swing? So the putter face needs to be square only at the moment of seperation?

Mr. Kelley is emphatic about a driver through putter adherence to the principle of golf - sustaining the line of compression. Set me straight!

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"If I choose to putt as I have to swing i.e. on an inclined plane, must I strike the inside aft quadrant of the ball with a slightly open clubface? Does the ball remain on the clubface of the putter in the same manner as it does during a regular swing? So the putter face needs to be square only at the moment of seperation?"

In principle, yes. It, however, depends on the amount or interval of "compression" the impact causes, which can be varified with the size of the ballmark on the clubface after impact. For horizontal hinge, the more or the longer the "compression", the more openness the clubface at impact. For vertical hinge, the clubface is supposed to be square all the time.

I wouldn't open the clubface at impact for my putt, due to the power of impact. Or should I say, like other shots, I don't worry about the clubface at impact for my putt.
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
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Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
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